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Re: Oregon Otter Trapping Ban
[Re: Petcoon]
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06/23/26 10:27 PM
06/23/26 10:27 PM
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Oregon
klam.rat
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Anyone can comment trough email on the odfw web site. I'm not sure but I think some of the stuff needs to be in by tomorrow it tells you on the web site. I sent in a hand written letter that is supposed to be hand delivered to the commissioners as I won't be able to attend the meeting.
Hope burns eternal in the heart of a trapper.
There's nothing colder than a fur buyers heart!
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Re: Oregon Otter Trapping Ban
[Re: Petcoon]
#8628946
06/23/26 11:11 PM
06/23/26 11:11 PM
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Oregon
beaverpeeler
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Thanks Darren! Good deal. And he's right, on-line comments by Wednesday. I've heard that it's running about 90% in favor of antis right now.
If anybody can possibly attend you will help shift the balance. We need a good showing Friday morning.
Last edited by beaverpeeler; 06/24/26 08:28 AM.
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Re: Oregon Otter Trapping Ban
[Re: Gerald Schmitt]
#8628958
06/23/26 11:39 PM
06/23/26 11:39 PM
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Jingles
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I believe the crux of the situation is that since the legislature shut down beaver trapping on public waters that otter has to ride along for that too. Traditionally in Oregon wherever there were beaver closures those areas were also closed for otter just to keep from catching beaver in otter sets. So Brian Wolfer (ODFW) is proposing just that to keep with the old rules. This is what we are fighting against because 3932 did not prohibit the take of otters...in fact I asked during the 3932 hearings if that would be the case and was assured that 3932 would not do that!
The Game Commission can make the rules however they see fit and we are hoping to show them that leaving otter harvest open is the right thing to do.
Legislative intent is supposed to be the goal of all statutory interpretation. The lawmaker(s) that stated that the bill would not prohibit the taking of otters should come to the hearing (or send a staff member(s) and testify to that effect, or at the very least submit written commentary stating that the intent of the statute was not intended to restrict otter trapping. Good luck at the hearing. Good luck with ANY politician saying anything about intent on one day and saying the same thing the next or even at 2 different meetings the same day.
The job of a Patriot is not to protect his country but to protect the people from the tryannical government
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Re: Oregon Otter Trapping Ban
[Re: MChewk]
#8629051
06/24/26 08:32 AM
06/24/26 08:32 AM
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Oregon
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There was al Dumb outsider looking in....where are the timber companies on this legislation and... for that matter the fishing industry folks? Big timber (holdings of 5000 acres or more) are already closed off to beaver trapping except for ADC and you can't keep the pelt. Deal with the devil arranged by our governor. Timber caved because the antis agreed not to protest timber sales in return.
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Re: Oregon Otter Trapping Ban
[Re: Petcoon]
#8629321
06/24/26 10:03 PM
06/24/26 10:03 PM
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Oregon
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Anybody else going to do their part to keep the antis from dictating furbearer policy in Oregon? We need you there...
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Re: Oregon Otter Trapping Ban
[Re: Petcoon]
#8629340
06/24/26 11:27 PM
06/24/26 11:27 PM
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Oregon
beaverpeeler
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It will be good to see you John...Thanks!
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Re: Oregon Otter Trapping Ban
[Re: Petcoon]
#8629724
Yesterday at 12:22 AM
Yesterday at 12:22 AM
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Oregon
beaverpeeler
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See you guys tomorrow.
I will be signing up to testify. The following is my rough draft: Greetings commissioners. My name is Carl Berg and I have held an Oregon trappers license since 1973.
Oregon trappers have a long history of collaboration with the Game Commission and ODFW. From live trapping beaver in the 30's and 40's for restoring beaver to areas of the state where they were no longer present, to live trapping otters for wildlife swaps with other states for bighorn sheep, trappers have been lending a hand. More than any other outdoors user group, trappers have provided important wildlife data. From volunteer marten carcass donation to ODFW, to turning in jawbones from bobcats and otter to analyze population dynamics. And much much more.
I personally have supplied beaver carcasses for ODFW bear, and marten & fisher studies. In fact ,(ironically), I (and other trappers) supplied male otter carcasses in the late 90's for necropsy studies by the DEQ to help determine the health of Oregon's waterways.
Which brings me to HB3932. The silliest piece of public policy I've ever seen. So, we now have areas of the Willamette river that are being closed off to beaver trapping so that beaver can restore the waters through their dam building? Give me a break!
I have a favor to ask of the Commission: Please do not exacerbate the harm done to me and other trappers by HB3932 to include otter as well. Richard Green from the ODFW Wildlife lab and Brian Wolfer, former biologist with the Springfield district ODFW office will tell you I know a thing or two about otter.
So Im telling you that while I may catch an otter from time to time in beaver sets, I never catch beaver in sets for the former. Because my sets are exclusively on otter toilets I know they will not catch beaver. We don't need otter harvest closure to ensure beaver are not caught.
I was told at the Senate hearings that HB3932 would not apply to otters when I asked that very question. Please, let that be true. Now is the time where we trappers would really appreciate appropriate reciprocation for all we have done.
Thank you!
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Re: Oregon Otter Trapping Ban
[Re: Petcoon]
#8629726
Yesterday at 12:53 AM
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Central Oregon
AntiGov
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I might make it , ifn you want the extra support to fight communism
I'm not a water trapper but that's obviously not the point here .
I'm always busy but also willing to help support my fellow trapper
I'm not fond of the odfw and their horrible management practices of our mule deer , but I'll refrain.....
The Vink for chief moderator....night shift ...11pm- 5am best coast time zone.....Free Marty
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Re: Oregon Otter Trapping Ban
[Re: Petcoon]
#8630060
Yesterday at 10:36 PM
Yesterday at 10:36 PM
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Oregon
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It's a big deal. We managed to get staff's proposal of closing otter trapping (all areas that would be closed to beaver trapping), to flipping the script completely. Therefore opening areas of the state that have been closed to otter trapping for the past 60 years! Huge victory for our side. Further, we had 30 trappers there in attendance to testify or otherwise be there in support. The antis maybe had 4-5 and a couple of on-line testimonies. Hurrah for the trappers..today we celebrate!!!
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Re: Oregon Otter Trapping Ban
[Re: Petcoon]
#8630065
Yesterday at 11:05 PM
Yesterday at 11:05 PM
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Oregon
beaverpeeler
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One more thought: I want to especially laud our Furbearer Coordinator Samantha Fino, and ODFW Deputy Administrator Brian Wolfer. Those guys stepped up to the plate today and knocked it out of the park with their testimony defending us trappers. They capably answered commissioners questions and concerns resulting in a unanimous vote to adopt ODFW staff's recommendation of open season statewide for otter. 
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Re: Oregon Otter Trapping Ban
[Re: beaverpeeler]
#8630097
3 hours ago
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Iowa
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Iowa
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It's a big deal. We managed to get staff's proposal of closing otter trapping (all areas that would be closed to beaver trapping), to flipping the script completely. Therefore opening areas of the state that have been closed to otter trapping for the past 60 years! Huge victory for our side. Further, we had 30 trappers there in attendance to testify or otherwise be there in support. The antis maybe had 4-5 and a couple of on-line testimonies. Hurrah for the trappers..today we celebrate!!! Well done, folks! Chalk one up for the good guys.
American Karens - not a fan
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Re: Oregon Otter Trapping Ban
[Re: MChewk]
#8630164
36 minutes ago
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Oregon
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Nice work to All that participated! Now another question....what happens when a beaver is caught accidentally (or other furbearers?) in those areas? And was there any legitimate discussion WHY beaver were prohibited to be trapped in those areas? Incidental take is not illegal in Oregon. Intent is the issue. If the game warden thinks you intentionally caught beaver in the closed areas you will be cited. If he thinks it was just an accidental catch you'll probably get off with a warning. DOJ is being called in on this to clarify for Oregon State Police what should happen. As far as the beaver closure; that is out of the Game Commission's hands as it was passed through legislative action.
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