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Re: a question to get you get you thinking. [Re: martentrapper] #8634577
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Originally Posted by martentrapper
I would refill my subscription for viagra!



My HMO is terrible and won't cover that. It will only cover the generic "Mycoxaflopin" but I would still get it refilled a few times. Party on.


I have nothing clever to put here.





Re: a question to get you get you thinking. [Re: GREENCOUNTYPETE] #8634598
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A. Turn my spirit to the Lord Jesus
B. Follow the gift of the Holy Spirit to guide me and judge my life from then on.
I know the old man is temporary and I am ready for the change.

Re: a question to get you get you thinking. [Re: Patrice] #8634599
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Originally Posted by Patrice
You've had a lot of time to think about that lately, Pete. I hope your final plan could include a little fishing with us too. I would really enjoy that.

Patrice

yeah , you bet , you know we don't have to wait till one of us is dying although my schedule is a little busy for a while.
That is the point of this question to make people think about not living for someday.

give the CCR song someday never comes a listen

I have laid out this question to most all of my friends group it is very interesting how they all answer. some are no surprise at all , some are like I didn't know you wanted to do that.

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America only has one issue, we have a Responsibility crisis and everything else stems from it.
Re: a question to get you get you thinking. [Re: GREENCOUNTYPETE] #8634608
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15+Years now, was written off by most 13 years ago.
Just keep on living, do the best you can, and don't ever believe you can't keep going.
Believe in yourself, and stay as natural as you can.
Drugs or artificial foods aren't in your life.
Any thing man made that isn't natural, isn't good for anyone.
Remember when butter, eggs and real fresh milk was bad for you?
Animal fat was bad for you?
Now I can't get leaf fat, or any fat to render anymore.
People are just starting to wake up.
If you can find a butcher or a farmer that will sell you good animal fat, get it!
Render it down, just like sour dough bread, it's natural.
Look at lard or tallow you can buy for $ 20 a pound, look at the additives in it.
Do your own as much as you can.
Never cut off the fat from a steak or chop, it's the best part of it.
Look up what's in margarine, how it was developed.


We have met the enemy and the enemy is us!
Re: a question to get you get you thinking. [Re: GREENCOUNTYPETE] #8634637
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My wife has been after me to clean up and get rid of stuff, getting rid of stuff is hard though, but been chipping away at it...got the estate planning recently done, so good there...
and just keep going to work and hope I drop in the boat....My wife will go to Texas by our son....

Just remember...When man plans...God laughs, lol

Re: a question to get you get you thinking. [Re: GREENCOUNTYPETE] #8634639
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What I find scary is everyone I knew that had 6 months to live only got a month or a little better- of course that was Pancreatic cancer too. I really dont know what I would do. It would depend on how mobile and pain free I was.

Re: a question to get you get you thinking. [Re: GREENCOUNTYPETE] #8634672
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Originally Posted by GREENCOUNTYPETE
so between the hardest stage of life and some of PF comments and threads lately

someone commented that 65-75 are not the hardest if you have had your priorities strait throughout your life.

well here is a question that I found renders/distills a persons priorities in a hurry. everyone should start by answering this. question , yes there is a part B

Question :
You have 11 months to live, the next 10 will be at your current level of health. The 11th will be downhill rapidly. (hospice is covered and will keep you nearly pain free in that final month.)

A. What are you doing with your time?
B.


think about that some , no month and no season will repeat.
then if you care to share your answer please do.

also you are who you are today with exactly the savings and resources you have today, today begins your 11 months. your last day is Jun 7th 2027

also no I am not sick but my wife was given a similar scenario Jan 2025 and lived it the 6 months she got.



Only God can tell you how much time you have. First thing is, don't believe someone just because they went to medical school.


Right now I’m having amnesia and déjà vu at the same time. I think I’ve forgotten this before.
Re: a question to get you get you thinking. [Re: lumberjack391] #8634695
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Originally Posted by lumberjack391
What I find scary is everyone I knew that had 6 months to live only got a month or a little better- of course that was Pancreatic cancer too. I really dont know what I would do. It would depend on how mobile and pain free I was.


The question is selectively phrased so that you don't worry about the pain and mobility , you as are you are today for 10 months , I understand that is likely not reality. this is a thought exercise.

they told my wife 8 months if she did nothing up to 18 months if she did all the treatments.

she did all the treatments.

she got 5 months 23 days
more like 22 days diagnosis came at 4pm and she passed at 11 am that last morning she wasn't with it , was for the most part up to that last morning.
stage 4 metastatic bile duct cancer , it is a form of pancreatic cancer but it started in the bile duct that connects the liver , gallbladder and pancreas together to the intestine
it takes out the liver but it had already spread to the lungs and god only knows where else.


The point of the question is to ask yourself with a finite life left what would I do with it.

Then to realize you have a finite amount of life and go implement what you would do as much as possible. while also calculating savings and plans to live to 90-95.



True only god can tell you how much time you have left , the medical school people will almost always tell you longer because they make money and learn about the disease by treating you , they also learn more about the disease to help the next person. so they want every minute of your time they can in treatment. you want every minute of your life you can to enjoy it and it is a balancing act for sure.

then every once in a while and people love to tell you about that outlier that they were given 6 months and they got 5 years , they really are an outlier.

I have watched too many people die of cancer thinking they could beat it putting off everything and focusing solely on treatment. living for that someday that never comes.

I also watched people sink their family in debt , they were told 2 years max focus on quality not quantity of life and they took that to mean buy everything because they were also in denial about the reality they were going to die. in the end it became clear they were a very selfish person who talked a good part.

In hind sight , for my wife, treatment was a total waste. way more pain and discomfort and time wasted. however you don't know that going in
I think she probably would have lived longer not treating the cancer because she started strong and the drugs weakened her fast and didn't touch the cancer.
she might have had 8 months from diagnosis had they not treated the cancer.
I can't say and I am not second guessing the decision we made , we made it to get all the time she could with the kids. we got what we got.


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Re: a question to get you get you thinking. [Re: GREENCOUNTYPETE] #8634697
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Less than 12 months to live? I'd hike into the wilderness for a final outdoor adventure. Save the hospice bed for someone else.

Sorry you went through that GreenPete.

Re: a question to get you get you thinking. [Re: Ohio Wolverine] #8634701
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Originally Posted by Ohio Wolverine
15+Years now, was written off by most 13 years ago.
Just keep on living, do the best you can, and don't ever believe you can't keep going.
Believe in yourself, and stay as natural as you can.
Drugs or artificial foods aren't in your life.
Any thing man made that isn't natural, isn't good for anyone.
Remember when butter, eggs and real fresh milk was bad for you?
Animal fat was bad for you?
Now I can't get leaf fat, or any fat to render anymore.
People are just starting to wake up.
If you can find a butcher or a farmer that will sell you good animal fat, get it!
Render it down, just like sour dough bread, it's natural.
Look at lard or tallow you can buy for $ 20 a pound, look at the additives in it.
Do your own as much as you can.
Never cut off the fat from a steak or chop, it's the best part of it.
Look up what's in margarine, how it was developed.


not sure what you mean by written off by most , are you saying the DR told you you had some short ammount of time to live and you have exceeded that by 13 years?

and that you are crediting good eating for your years.

I agree natural foods are the best I eat meat , eggs , diary , vegetable and very little of anything processed

I think you may have missed the point of the question.

which is to ask yourself what would you do if you had a finite amount of life left.

then to realize you have a finite amount of life left and how to implement what you wish to do.

if good eating of natural foods is what you choose to do then great

also yes I have a good farm source for all grass fed beef tallow and it is pre ground and very clean. I render it myself although my son asked me to stop rendering it in the house.
if you are looking message me they will ship it.


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Re: a question to get you get you thinking. [Re: GREENCOUNTYPETE] #8634720
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In many ways, I feel like the Grim Reaper this year. Seems like almost every week of 2026 is another family member, friend, or very close acquaintance passing or getting a death sentence.

1. Write everything down and make sure the family and few close friends know the plan
2. Ask my wife and daughters what they would like to have for final memories.
3. do what I can to make sure my grandbabies are set up for the future
4. Years ago I learned the phrase "Not my Problem" - I would live my remaining time as the epitome of that
5. Try my best to share what I have learned with my grandkids
6. Get on a virgin prairie dog colony and shoot until the barrel melts

Part B - not much. I've been dealing with death so much the last few years and helping to settle estates, that it taught me and my family some huge lessons. My body is so abused, small health issues are showing up and I know I don't have an exceptionally long life expectancy. Doctor told me years ago when I was having stress issues to only deal with things that I can control - everything else - NOT MY PROBLEM!!

The other advise I have shared with many younger people is to leave nothing unsaid. If you think it, ask about it and talk about it. Death is not a taboo thing. Have those conversations as much as possible and have no regrets


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Re: a question to get you get you thinking. [Re: GREENCOUNTYPETE] #8634733
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good words Randy , Thankyou

I find great wisdom in the serenity prayer and that it can be applied in many ways , it isn't just for people with substance abuse issues.

Lord grant me the serenity to accept the things I can not change.
In many ways this helps to show you what is "not my problem" maybe it is your problem but you can't change it so don't give it energy.
one place to apply this is the news. What good does it do to toss all your energy at the miss information of the day. if you can't change it let it go.

The courage to change the things I can
leaving nothing unsaid. setting your family up for the future without you.

And the wisdom to know the difference.
what is yours to do and what isn't , where you put your energy and where it is just a waste.

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Re: a question to get you get you thinking. [Re: GREENCOUNTYPETE] #8634791
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I really like this thread.

It made me think of an old gun dealer from Texas I did some business with. Herschel Chadick was his name. In every box he shipped there was a small card printed with a short message about life. It was called "The Station".

In short it told of so many who say that when they reach a certain goal, (the train station), they'll do X, Y or Z for pleasure. The rest of the story basically explains that you never really reach the station as it keeps moving further down the line.

Hence, do what you want as you can and when you're able.

I wish I could find a copy of it. He was a quality guy and dealt in high grade collectible American shotguns like Parker, Fox, Stevens etc.

As for myself and my wife, we've followed his advice over 40 years of marriage. We worked hard and didn't waste our money and were able to retire early and continue to do what we wanted. Not having kids made a big difference in that but to each their own. My 10 months would be spent making sure that my wife was prepared to live in the modern world without me, and make sure that neither the French or American government got any of our money when we are both gone.

Pete



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Re: a question to get you get you thinking. [Re: stinkypete] #8634795
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Originally Posted by stinkypete
Have your affairs in order. So you are not a burden on your loved ones.

Nothing else really matters. IMO. But that is the way I was raised.




X2

Ask if anybody wants any of my stuff and then cleanup all that is left so nobody else has to worry about it. There would be a big sale.

Meanwhile........live life. When that time comes.....have no regrets........will have been anywhere i ever wanted to go.........seen everything I ever wanted to see.......and done everything I ever wanted to do. The bucket list is all scratched off. Do that now.......don't wait til the end........cause you won't be able to then. And I"m pretty much there now. And at some point a quiet resolves sets in. Well over half of the kids I graduated high school with are gone. The rest of us are on the clock..........you eventually reach a point where you begin to wonder how you made it as far as you did.

Years ago........depending on the crowd.........I'd joke about this end of life scenario.........and told people I had a list of people who ought to be shot. If that time came, I'd spend my time running around shooting those people who ought to be shot. People on the list were real estate swindlers.........lawyers........politicians..............people known to be cheats and crooks in personal business dealings. People who ought to be shot. Depending on the crowd........if you started comparing names...........there were a lot of same on everyone's list. They are well known.

When that stopped being funny was when that day came when a close friend did get that news..........he went from normal to gone in less than 30 days. He had been in on the joke, but didn't shoot anybody and I never would either. Moral to the story is don't do anything in life that would get you on somebody's list. Don't be that guy.

And until then........live life.


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Ok, now that I understand a bit better what you are getting at. First thing to do is forgive anyone who you have a grudge against. I had not been given a certain amount of time, but I was told if the treatment didn't work I was out of options, so I had time to think about all the quality-of-life vs quantity questions. And about what matters and what doesn't in life. They say most people have many problems, people with cancer only have one and there's truth to that.
Then, you do what you enjoy most. It's really that simple. Do everything you can to be as healthy as you can in your situation, which, like many said, means getting rid of all the bad foods like sugar and starches and staying natural, eating real food and walking every day. People will say get your affairs in order, make out a will and such. That's all taken care of. The part that gets weird is when you go on living and then you have to decide "What now?" which is where I'm at now.

But yeah, it's usually not a situation where you can just take off and fill your bucket list, because most people in that situation feel like crap and are limited in what they can do.


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I would probably take a nap. Sounds good right now but im siting in the truck waiting for the boys to finish a yard they are mowing.
If my finances are the same I would be better doing the same im doing now. I wouldn't dip into my savings or do anything special. I would want mone to do that to stay invested and be there for my wife and kids. I may invest in more dividend stocks and leaving instructions not to sell or touch the engine, only the earning off the engine and reinvesting unless cash is need since the nest is 1/4 of low end what I was shooting for it to be.

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