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Re: Silver beatdown [Re: WI Outdoors] #8635097
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Im not sure I agree. Maybe Alberta is diff. I think you need to multiply by the USA correction factor or something. Homes are probably peoples biggest asset here in the states. Someone could grow and leap frog homes making significant value increases here in the last 25 years. Our parents did the same thing. Land here was 2500 and acre in 1996. Its 20,000 now. Thats 87% increase. 100 acres would have been 250k in 96 and it'd be 1M now. Thats without a fancy house on it that would have went from 200k to 600k.

Re: Silver beatdown [Re: WI Outdoors] #8635113
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homes require you to keep putting money in them. Interest, taxes, insurance, maintenance and labor They are an investment that costs yearly to own.


Who is John Galt?
Re: Silver beatdown [Re: WI Outdoors] #8635115
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Homes/land have increased because the money supply has increased,,,,, dramatically!!!

Reducing the purchasing power of the dollar

And the money supply going to continue increasing big time!

It’s the only way to keep things rolling


Along with everything dirt just pointed out,,,



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Re: Silver beatdown [Re: WI Outdoors] #8635116
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rental properties can make money. homes you went into debt for not so much. so can agricultural property


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Re: Silver beatdown [Re: WI Outdoors] #8635122
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Sure, rentals and agricultural land can make money,,,


Until there’s a bad renter, or a bad growing season

Re: Silver beatdown [Re: WI Outdoors] #8635128
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even in a bad growing season ag property keeps its value with little expenditure. especially with ag subsidies and insurance


Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
Re: Silver beatdown [Re: WI Outdoors] #8635133
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Even a bad renter can still be good with government subsidies

Government subsidies tend to do that,,,,lol



That’s why the dollar is decreasing in value,,,,,,

The money is broken,,,,,,

Re: Silver beatdown [Re: spjones] #8635135
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Originally Posted by spjones


Silver didn’t get the hammer like gold did




I'm not sure I agree. Please explain


"Gold is money, everything else is just credit" JP Morgan
Re: Silver beatdown [Re: WI Outdoors] #8635137
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It was a short term ban on silver 5-10 years,,

Not sure how long it actually was

Would be easy to look up

Re: Silver beatdown [Re: WI Outdoors] #8635144
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I understand now. I wasn't sure if you were referring to the ban or the subject of the thread title.


"Gold is money, everything else is just credit" JP Morgan
Re: Silver beatdown [Re: WI Outdoors] #8635145
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They can ban things all they want. Fentanyl is illegal yet easily obtained

They did not ban the ownership of 18k jewelry. There is always a way.


"Gold is money, everything else is just credit" JP Morgan
Re: Silver beatdown [Re: WI Outdoors] #8635147
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The house I went into debt for five years ago is worth quit a bit more than when I bought it and I haven't spent that much in maintenance if any in five years. Housing can be an investment. I can see how people living somewhere where it wasn't though but technically those people could move to somewhere that was more beneficial. i.e. you know they are printing money. you know assets are going to increase. why not get a bigger asset? Why not do that a few times and make a few bucks?

Maybe I just live in a place where that is more possible than others. Its not like that in the middle of nowhere NE I know. Best of luck to everyone.

Who moved during COVID? Did you see a big increase in home value?

Re: Silver beatdown [Re: WI Outdoors] #8635148
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Increasing the money supply, also increases equity prices. Happened big time during covid.


Who is John Galt?
Re: Silver beatdown [Re: OhioBoy] #8635182
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Originally Posted by OhioBoy
The house I went into debt for five years ago is worth quit a bit more than when I bought it and I haven't spent that much in maintenance if any in five years. Housing can be an investment. I can see how people living somewhere where it wasn't though but technically those people could move to somewhere that was more beneficial. i.e. you know they are printing money. you know assets are going to increase. why not get a bigger asset? Why not do that a few times and make a few bucks?

Maybe I just live in a place where that is more possible than others. Its not like that in the middle of nowhere NE I know. Best of luck to everyone.

Who moved during COVID? Did you see a big increase in home value?

The quicker you pay a house off, the better investment it will be.....mortgage interest cuts into the investment.

Re: Silver beatdown [Re: WI Outdoors] #8635201
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I might disagree with that under some circumstances.

If your mortgage rate is equal to or less than the rate of inflation it does not make sense to pay off the mortgage..IMO.
In an inflationary environment the dollars you use to pay your mortgage are worth less than the dollars you borrowed initially.

It's a win win for you. Your asset is appreciating due to inflation and the dollars you are paying are each worth less, due to inflation


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Re: Silver beatdown [Re: white17] #8635221
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Originally Posted by white17
I might disagree with that under some circumstances.

If your mortgage rate is equal to or less than the rate of inflation it does not make sense to pay off the mortgage..IMO.
In an inflationary environment the dollars you use to pay your mortgage are worth less than the dollars you borrowed initially.

It's a win win for you. Your asset is appreciating due to inflation and the dollars you are paying are each worth less, due to inflation

I can understand your math, momentarily, but have we ever been in a financial climate where inflationary rate was higher than the mortgage rate for the life of the note...say 15 or 30 years?

Re: Silver beatdown [Re: WI Outdoors] #8635228
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Well, we are probably 5 years into one


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Re: Silver beatdown [Re: WI Outdoors] #8635262
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Got in a unique situation within a unique situation on some farm land. End of story I ended up with 100 tiled acres and my current home. We lease 95 of the acres to a local farming family. Farm land random tiled across the street just went for almost three times per acre what we paid and did not include a home.

My current problem is now I have lost my connections to hustle. Looking more at market trends and not individual deals. I have become dead in the water.

Re: Silver beatdown [Re: trappingthomas] #8635264
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Originally Posted by trappingthomas
Got in a unique situation within a unique situation on some farm land. End of story I ended up with 100 tiled acres and my current home. We lease 95 of the acres to a local farming family. Farm land random tiled across the street just went for almost three times per acre what we paid and did not include a home.

My current problem is now I have lost my connections to hustle. Looking more at market trends and not individual deals. I have become dead in the water.



m not sure I agree. Maybe Alberta is diff. I think you need to multiply by the USA correction factor or something. Homes are probably peoples biggest asset here in the states. Someone could grow and leap frog homes making significant value increases here in the last 25 years. Our parents did the same thing. Land here was 2500 and acre in 1996. Its 20,000 now. Thats 87% increase. 100 acres would have been 250k in 96 and it'd be 1M now. Thats without a fancy house on it that would have went from 200k to 600k.

Ha! I did not read this post but almost exactly describes my deal I posted. Spot on!

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