Processed food and health - American Style
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Larry Hall
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Gang, as a fat person who struggles with arthritis badly- 3 surgeries - read that chronic inflammation I found this quite interesting. I have no idea if it's true, but it sure sounds right lol - I hijacked it from another site I follow. The crazy thing is we have really been trying to clean up and eat healthy - the wife is one of those folks who just doesn't change, never has to watch what she eats, but not me.. I can look at food and pick up 3 pounds.
But cleaning out processed junk, refined sugars and such, eating real home made sour dough bread and exercising has sure made a big difference the last year. I've not lost much weight, but feel so much better and can actually walk a good bit now pain free. I've picked up a good bit of muscle tone from riding the bicycle so that's a plus. 8 miles this morning and it wasn't a struggle and no pain. I also did a 3 month ivermectin protocol in January and started on marshmallow root tincture and nascent Iodine. Been an absolute game changer for my back, hip and knee pain. FWIW.. Lot of us on here are getting older and stiffer, might give you all some relief..
But this excerpt blew me away when I read it.
The FDA didn't fail — it was never designed to protect you. Since 1958, the GRAS (Generally Regarded as Safe) loophole has let food corporations self-certify their own ingredients as safe without a single federal review. The result? Thousands of chemicals, banned across the civilized world, remain legal in American food. This is not negligence. This is a business model that monetizes your slow sickness. The same companies that poison your bread, your soda, your snacks, and your kids' cereal fund the studies that exonerate them, write the regulations that shield them, and pay for the ads that gaslight you into believing this is normal. They engineered a food supply that hijacks your biology, overrides your satiety signals, and keeps you hooked, inflamed, and exhausted — then they call it "personal responsibility" when your body breaks. You are not weak. You are a survivor of a deliberate, decades-long assault on human health. So reject the lie. Read every label as if your life depends on it — because it does. If an ingredient is banned elsewhere, it doesn't belong in your body. Eat food that rots, not food that resists decay. Filter your water, cook on cast iron, refuse the thermal receipt, and for God's sake stop microwaving plastic. The system will not save you. So save yourself — loudly, stubbornly, starting right now.
what a damning commentary on our food supply and government..
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Re: Processed food and health - American Style
[Re: Larry Hall]
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Interesting. Would like to see the source of this.
American Karens - not a fan
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Re: Processed food and health - American Style
[Re: Larry Hall]
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Oregon
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The average American gets far more protein than they need. Fiber...not so much.
Our health is very related to the gut organisms we maintain. Lots of refined foods, (sugars and starches) and you have the ones responsible for more inflammation in your system. Lots of veggies, fruits, and whole grains (read that high quality fiber) and you get the ones that tamp down on inflammation.
My fear of moving stairs is escalating!
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Re: Processed food and health - American Style
[Re: Larry Hall]
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How do you feel when you sit down and eat a nice fresh steak? I'm guessing pretty good, atleast I know I do. I don't feel "Bloated" or "stuffed" despite eating a good amount of protein and calories.
Now how do you feel when you eat a bunch of cheap Pizza?
My wife recently made Pizza. Homemade crust, homemade tomato sauce my mom canned from her garden. Homemade cheese made from the Milk from our cow. Sausage my dad made. I ate a ton of that Pizza as it was excellent. After eating I looked at my wife and said "I feel great, like I just ate a steak". It made me a bit of an instant believer in "real" food.
Chief of staff @ Mensa Tree division/vison officer
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Re: Processed food and health - American Style
[Re: Larry Hall]
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All you need to do is read the ingredients in anything you buy. Natural food has no additives.
We have met the enemy and the enemy is us!
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Re: Processed food and health - American Style
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You guys do realize the extra years added to your life are not years when you are active and bullet proof. They get tacked on to the years you are in the nursing home. I try to eat healthy, but I also like to enjoy what I am eating so I do not have all the answers either. I do know what people older then me have said. Pete told me "Eat right exercise..... still die." And my 106 year old neighbor Lily said. " Living a long time is a blessing, but it is also kind of a curse." She passed away recently reading her obit where it said she buried all of her kids and a grand kid or two. I started to realize what she was referring to. G. Not true. It's all a crapshoot. Genetics plays a role too. However, I'd rather live without type 2 diabetes and that's pretty easy to not get if you eat healthy.
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You guys do realize the extra years added to your life are not years when you are active and bullet proof. They get tacked on to the years you are in the nursing home. I try to eat healthy, but I also like to enjoy what I am eating so I do not have all the answers either. I do know what people older then me have said. Pete told me "Eat right exercise..... still die." And my 106 year old neighbor Lily said. " Living a long time is a blessing, but it is also kind of a curse." She passed away recently reading her obit where it said she buried all of her kids and a grand kid or two. I started to realize what she was referring to. G. Not true. It's all a crapshoot. Genetics plays a role too. However, I'd rather live without type 2 diabetes and that's pretty easy to not get if you eat healthy. While being genetics is true, there would be a lot less health problems eating natural foods. Same with medicines , natural remedies are far better than chemists remedies . Pharmaceuticals cause more problems than they will ever cure. Have a headache , take this Tylenol , or Anacin instead of pure aspirin . Your choice, loose your liver and kidneys over a headache . There were few cases of diabetes in the 50'and 60's , but now it seems more and more cases by the week today.
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We have met the enemy and the enemy is us!
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Re: Processed food and health - American Style
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My grandfather died from complications of type 2 diabetes in 1942. He was 62. I'm not overweight like most sufferers of the condition, but have also had it for the last decade. My diet has been pretty decent and I exercise a lot but I have a strong genetic propensity for the malady. Having said that, if I completey were to avoid sugars and carbs I probably could have skated past it.
My fear of moving stairs is escalating!
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How do you feel when you sit down and eat a nice fresh steak? I'm guessing pretty good, atleast I know I do. I don't feel "Bloated" or "stuffed" despite eating a good amount of protein and calories.
Now how do you feel when you eat a bunch of cheap Pizza?
My wife recently made Pizza. Homemade crust, homemade tomato sauce my mom canned from her garden. Homemade cheese made from the Milk from our cow. Sausage my dad made. I ate a ton of that Pizza as it was excellent. After eating I looked at my wife and said "I feel great, like I just ate a steak". It made me a bit of an instant believer in "real" food. Pizza shop pizza is hands down my favorite food. So I feel pretty dang good after eating it. It's what I had for supper tonight, in fact.
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Re: Processed food and health - American Style
[Re: Larry Hall]
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I can’t speak for Mexico but Canada and the US are a mess when it comes to obesity and overall health. I know you Americans are really anti Europe but I’m actually sitting drinking coffee in Europe right now on day 12 of a vacation here and my biggest takeaway from the trip is how much of a mess we are in North America comparatively when it comes to fitness and overall appearance.
Inactivity and a poor diet are the reasons. The amount of processed food we eat in comparison is huge. A sample size of 100 average men from the Netherlands would absolutely clobber a sample size of the same amount of Canadian or American men in a brawl or any physical feat. The same could be said about the women but you could also add in that the Dutch ones are the ones the Canadian and American men would be staring at.
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One chemical that has been a thorn in my side is Aspartame. How is it that so many other countries have banned it, yet here in the US, it's seems to be untouchable. If you google it, the reviews are scary.
You're old when you walk by a rest room and say, "As long as I'm here........."
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