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Re: Mabye I'm just too poor mined to understand [Re: Wolfdog91] #8643263
07/30/26 01:01 PM
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There's a few gun enthusiasts up here that are butt hurt over the price that an SKS is fetching. They're usually the ones who can't afford their utility bill but like to let others know how financially retarded they are.
Spend your $$ on whatever blows your hair back.......lol.
I know an old coworker who remortgages his house every few years, but has the best toys out there. He'll die severely in debt, but he's having fun. I don't think that's smart, but at least when he dies, it's all paid off through insurance so there's no burden on his wife. He's smart enough for me......lol


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Re: Mabye I'm just too poor mined to understand [Re: Wolfdog91] #8643269
07/30/26 01:20 PM
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Trying to shame somebody for spending THEIR money on stuff you think is wrong , stupid or not to your liking, is no different then some Karen bullying some innocent guy over the MAGA hat he's wearing...

Re: Mabye I'm just too poor mined to understand [Re: gcs] #8643273
07/30/26 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by gcs
Trying to shame somebody for spending THEIR money on stuff you think is wrong , stupid or not to your liking, is no different then some Karen bullying some innocent guy over the MAGA hat he's wearing...

It seems like a very liberal/dem thing to do, like anit hunting, firearms or trapping people hating on us because they don't approve of it. But a lot of conservative/rep do it too.....lol


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Re: Mabye I'm just too poor mined to understand [Re: Wolfdog91] #8643274
07/30/26 01:44 PM
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I don't think Wolfie is trying to shame anyone , being poor minded is real , it isn't much different than having food issues because you had none at some point.
my father in law had a unhealthy relationship with food from growing up with depression parents and then spending time in Vietnam no food could be wasted at all and that meant he would eat when he didn't need to and shouldn't have.

you are the collection of your experiences and your lessons and take aways from it.

think about people who were servers in a restaurant they have a different understanding and experience than the guy who never worked food or any service industry.

I was talking to a lady who grew up so poor she didn't have running water in the kitchen , it definitely shaped her , that and her alcoholic father and husband all shaped her , in her late 40s she can now see it but still can't not be who she is because of all of it.

I don't think it is bad that Wolfie thinks of money different , I hope he puts emphasis on saving and learns how money can work to make more.

I also don't think he is trying to bully anyone into how they spend their money he just doesn't understand how or why people spend the way they do because he has never lived that side of society.

I didn't understand it when I was working on multi million dollar homes on the north shore either but I got a glimpse into it.


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Re: Mabye I'm just too poor mined to understand [Re: Dirty D] #8643280
07/30/26 01:59 PM
07/30/26 01:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Dirty D
There is a bigger issue here that Wolfie is scratching at.

There are many things nowdays that make no sense, are not practical and have really no useful purpose other than to give the owner pleasure.

Its a reflection of a hedonistic bend in society.

A kind of hooray for me and screw everyone else and everything else attitude.

great example of the attitude is the guy who recently killed a woman after running over her boat on the Fox River in Ill about a week ago.
He had a pontoon boat with 3 500 hp engines on it, 1500hp on a pontoon boat.


..I mean..I guess ? I didn't really think that deep into all this ... Like I don't believe everything NEEDS to make sense to be practical.. I mean look at a lot donny posts , I legit have a budget for doing dumb stuff... But at the same time there's just a point for me where it's like ... Ok ... Really ??

I mean if you showed me that gun in the video said , " yeah it's a 4" barrel , requires a tax stamp , shoots $3-$10 rounds and groups like 3" @ 100yd ....but it's only $800 " Id be like ...ok thats neat and kinda goofy ... $800 isn't too bad for somthing like this .... But you come to be say the same and then tell me it's $7500 ? Yeah something in my head just .... Yeah no. Again if you wanna drop that kinda cash on ... That ... Sure it's America land of the free home of the whopper but to me if in droopping $7500 on a rifle , yeahhhhhhh it's gotta be something like a rare weatherby or a double gun or some nice custom elr , back country or whatever rig that I can zip an elk at 1200yd not ...maybe hit a parrie dog at 100yd


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Re: Mabye I'm just too poor mined to understand [Re: Shakeyjake] #8643281
07/30/26 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Shakeyjake
I just spent almost $6G on a hunting rifle. I love it, but I’ll never do it again……lol. And I shouldn’t have to.
You only live once. If you want it, buy it.


See yours is something I can see being worth all that .... Nice barrel stock scope shoots like a lazer ....a 4" barreled suppressed thing....just don't make a lot do sense to me ... Especially when I could probably get a FEW full customs built for the same price .... Probably


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Re: Mabye I'm just too poor mined to understand [Re: GREENCOUNTYPETE] #8643282
07/30/26 02:17 PM
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Originally Posted by GREENCOUNTYPETE
I hear you buddy , 7-8K goes a long ways toward a used car , a roof , a boat

so a 7500 dollar SBR is a little hard to do especially when you could build for a fair bit less something that will do what it does.

or it goes well in a CD and earn interest on it saving for later

the thing we say about people with 100 million dollar houses and 250K cars , they didn't go blow their only 100 million on that house

my brother was just saying the other day he realized he could change his mind set he didn't need to always be thinking about the budget way to do everything , but it is where we came from , you wanted a thing you were looking at how to get it on tight money.
he and his wife have good jobs he can afford to step up some on the things he wants.


I just don't see the reason for it costing so much ... Like seriously. Now apparently only 100 are being made as Q has a big cult following so ...look I can't be mad at the guy who made them to be making his money .... But I just cannot see the value in it for $7500 . Especially after talking. To people who own some of his stuff like his FIX rifle.
I've been able to play with some high dollar rigs think the best was a 9k bench set up... And man I can see and feel the cost in those ... But I've also handled and (This word is unacceptable on Trapperman) some that where " high dollar " builds and ..... yeahhh.

Like one guy , was at the range bragging about his $3500 AR and how great it was . Got to talking he let me shoot it ...and no no no no grouped like crap , felt like crap , recoil impulse sucked , the dang thing jammed with anything that was super nice ammo ... But but it was some nice name brand . I just didnt see or feel it .

Now I know there som argument to be made along the line of race cars are for racing or not putting cheap gas in one and all that ....but at the same time if I hop in the ting and it feels and preforms like my dang Nissan Centra.

I mean I have ALOT of dump stuff .....but their all dirt cheap . A $400 rifle shooting 3" groups @100yd for me is just a meh type deal


But then again... The suppressed SBR world isn't really something I mess with . Heck mabye this things is honestly stellar and worth every penny and that performance is amazing but personally I just can't see it


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Re: Mabye I'm just too poor mined to understand [Re: Shakeyjake] #8643283
07/30/26 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Shakeyjake
Originally Posted by gcs
Trying to shame somebody for spending THEIR money on stuff you think is wrong , stupid or not to your liking, is no different then some Karen bullying some innocent guy over the MAGA hat he's wearing...

It seems like a very liberal/dem thing to do, like anit hunting, firearms or trapping people hating on us because they don't approve of it. But a lot of conservative/rep do it too.....lol


There's a large difference in saying "I don't get it, seems dumb" vs "I don't like it,it should be illegal"


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Re: Mabye I'm just too poor mined to understand [Re: Wolfdog91] #8643285
07/30/26 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Wolfdog91
Originally Posted by GREENCOUNTYPETE
I hear you buddy , 7-8K goes a long ways toward a used car , a roof , a boat

so a 7500 dollar SBR is a little hard to do especially when you could build for a fair bit less something that will do what it does.

or it goes well in a CD and earn interest on it saving for later

the thing we say about people with 100 million dollar houses and 250K cars , they didn't go blow their only 100 million on that house

my brother was just saying the other day he realized he could change his mind set he didn't need to always be thinking about the budget way to do everything , but it is where we came from , you wanted a thing you were looking at how to get it on tight money.
he and his wife have good jobs he can afford to step up some on the things he wants.


I just don't see the reason for it costing so much ... Like seriously. Now apparently only 100 are being made as Q has a big cult following so ...look I can't be mad at the guy who made them to be making his money .... But I just cannot see the value in it for $7500 . Especially after talking. To people who own some of his stuff like his FIX rifle.
I've been able to play with some high dollar rigs think the best was a 9k bench set up... And man I can see and feel the cost in those ... But I've also handled and (This word is unacceptable on Trapperman) some that where " high dollar " builds and ..... yeahhh.

Like one guy , was at the range bragging about his $3500 AR and how great it was . Got to talking he let me shoot it ...and no no no no grouped like crap , felt like crap , recoil impulse sucked , the dang thing jammed with anything that was super nice ammo ... But but it was some nice name brand . I just didnt see or feel it .

Now I know there som argument to be made along the line of race cars are for racing or not putting cheap gas in one and all that ....but at the same time if I hop in the ting and it feels and preforms like my dang Nissan Centra.

I mean I have ALOT of dump stuff .....but their all dirt cheap . A $400 rifle shooting 3" groups @100yd for me is just a meh type deal


But then again... The suppressed SBR world isn't really something I mess with . Heck mabye this things is honestly stellar and worth every penny and that performance is amazing but personally I just can't see it

some people have the money to burn they want the cool factor
you are absolutely right a chassis and an action and you could build it for 1500 and have a nice gun

some of these things are for the people who just have money to spend to say they got something.

nothing sub sonic is supper accurate , suddenly 50fps at 700fps is a 7% change in velocity where 50fps at 2750fps is a 1.8% difference you also have a much longer flight time and can be blown around a lot more.

with tax stamps now zero dollars you could play with it , quiet is a lot of fun

people invent things in their mind and then if they have the $ they will buy solutions to questions they will likely never be asked.


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Re: Mabye I'm just too poor mined to understand [Re: Wolfdog91] #8643291
07/30/26 02:55 PM
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there is also a "interest" or an idea that people want to explore , could you do a discrete bag gun that delivers quiet and effective in a semi discrete bag , why this is named the lunch box.

hey can we make a gun that fits in a lunch box sized bag that could actually be useful in whatever apocalyptic fantasy they have.


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Re: Mabye I'm just too poor mined to understand [Re: Wolfdog91] #8643295
07/30/26 03:18 PM
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Definitely not something I would want or keep if given to me. My 8.5" barrel 300 blackout can fill that roll and do it more accurately for much less cost.

But im glad companies build things and there is a market available for them to sell to. Driving innovation and maybe that will lead to advancement in all shooting.


I prefer more accuracy and value. Poor accuracy and expensive is not for me.

Re: Mabye I'm just too poor mined to understand [Re: KeithC] #8643310
07/30/26 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted by KeithC
I don't see it as any business of mine, or anyone else's, what someone does with their money, as long as they aren't greatly, adversely effecting anyone else. The vast majority of people, who are wealthy, are so because of their own abilities and hard work. Poor people are usually poor because of their own lack of ability, bad choices and personal failures. For the most part, people get out of life what they deserve.

How is buying an expensive, powerful boat " "hooray for me and screw anyone and anything else" "? I strongly doubt that thought ever crossed that man's mind.

The problem wasn't the purchase of the boat, it was the operation of it at 80 plus miles an hour, while very drunk, in a no wake zone. The boat owner deserves to be in prison for a very long time. He also deserves to be financially ruined.

Keith




I'll try and give an honest explanation for you.

What was the useful practical purpose for having a 1500hp pontoon boat that could go 80 plus mph?

None.

It was just for his own "fun".

So if one buys something with no practical useful purpose just for ones own "fun" that is equal to "hooray for me, screw everyone and everything else". selfishness at its best.

Another local to me example is Big Elkhart Lake, a lake of a little less than 300 acres. Pretty much developed all around it.
This lake has lots of fishing, paddle boarding, kayaking, swimming and other activities during the summer as the local region draws lots of tourists.
The local governing body voted to ban wake boarding.
Banning wake boarding was in the best interest of all the people who live on and use the lake. And its in the best interest of the lake environment.
Wake boarding is another example of the "hooray for me and screw everyone and everything else" mind set.
So what happened after it was banned? The few that wanted it didn't accept the result of the representative governing body they sued for millions.
They care only about their own "fun", they literally said "we don't care what the majority wants we want our fun, so screw you".

Do you think society is better off when citizens think of the results of actions they take on the rest of society or just about how much fun they alone can have?

Thats it in a nuts shell. Think of others and the world around you before you get a 1500hp pontoon boat, get drunk and rip up and down the river.

Or maybe another way of putting it, would you rather have a respectful neighbor who is mindful of you and other neighbors or one who does what he wants with no care for you or others?


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