Dirt, I have everything you have quoted and then some. The majority of my definitions come from Black's Law Dictionary, 11th Edition, a couple come from Merriam-Webster's Collegiate Dictionary, 11th Edition, and a couple come from SCOTUS rulings other sources.

Are you familiar with IRC (Title 26 USCA, Sec. 183)? You can find it in the IRS Codes or you can look up in Black's Law Dictionary under the word "Hobby Loss."

Since Black's Law Dictionary, 11th Ed., did not have a definition for the word, "avocation," I looked it up in Merriam-Webster's Collegiate Dictionary, 11th Ed., An "avocation" is: "(2) Customary employment: Vocation (3) A subordinate occupation pursued in addition to one's vocation, especially for enjoyment: Hobby."

In other words, commercial fur harvesting can be engaged in as a second, third, fourth, etcetera, part-time occupation (job) as a profit producing income stream and still be considered a part of one's livelihood.

Black' Law Dictionary, 11th Ed., defines a "livelihood" as "A means of supporting one's existence, especially financially.

The website https://lawinsider.com defines "Livelihood" as, " The full range of of means that individuals, families and communities utilize to make a living such as wage-based income, agriculture, foraging, other natural resource-based livelihoods, petty trade and bartering."

Dirt and Midlander, it has been a hoot discussing this with the two of you. I am just trying to educate everybody on their constitutional rights and how they relate to commercial fur harvesting. If I have stepped on some toes, tough, deal with it. I have a treatise to finish working on. I'll come back when I am finished with the final product.

good luck with your project!

So is the difference that you can't deduct expenses for hobby uncome? Why would anyone report that way?

Business income is subject to an additional 15.3 percent self employed tax. Income tax could be zero after standard deductions.

You could take the entire wild fur crop from last year, sell it, and it still wouldn't be 5% of what it'd take to actually do anything about changing things in regards to trapping being commercial as compared to recreational. There isn't enough money to make any noise.

Those that know it is commercial deep in their hearts will have to suffer as a result. It's a really sad ordeal.


Pushing it as commercial will undoubtedly help with fur prices is my thoughts.

Having conventions be gatherings for professional trade associations would be whole lot better than gathering in circles sniffing jars of canine anuses and talking about what muskrats were worth when they were 16 years old.