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Re: Belisle 330 price!!!! [Re: Jtrapper] #8652569
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Originally Posted by Jtrapper
Obama doubled the debt in 8 years, took over 200 years to get 10 trillion in debt, he did 10 trillion in 8.

Biden did the inflation and tried to increase gov size, 87,000 new IRS agents ring a bell? Trump's cut the gov. workforce more than any president in my lifetime.

And increasing the debt seems to be what is going to happen no matter WHO is in office, congress likes to spend other people's money, don't see that changing.


It more than doubled under Reagan.

Your last sentence says it all no one cares. At least in the political class


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Re: Belisle 330 price!!!! [Re: Steven 49er] #8652570
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Originally Posted by Steven 49er
Originally Posted by Jtrapper
Obama doubled the debt in 8 years, took over 200 years to get 10 trillion in debt, he did 10 trillion in 8.

Biden did the inflation and tried to increase gov size, 87,000 new IRS agents ring a bell? Trump's cut the gov. workforce more than any president in my lifetime.

And increasing the debt seems to be what is going to happen no matter WHO is in office, congress likes to spend other people's money, don't see that changing.


It more than doubled under Reagan.

Your last sentence says it all no one cares. At least in the political class


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Re: Belisle 330 price!!!! [Re: Swamp Wolf] #8652574
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This is the result of making the only real voting requirements be 18 and a pulse.

As we found out in central MN, if you don't vote the "right way" they'll import people who do


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Re: Belisle 330 price!!!! [Re: Swamp Wolf] #8652576
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Originally Posted by white marlin
Originally Posted by bearcat2

Her answer is very realistic, and would be effective, but it won't happen without a major collapse first. Because there aren't enough politicians willing to take the heat from their constituents when their programs are cut. There is no plus side for politicians in that answer. By the time the long term gain appeared, most of those voting for it would be out of office.


which makes her answer very UNREALISTIC.


Originally Posted by bearcat2
Oh, I suspect a major collapse is realistic enough. It would sure be a lot easier on a heckuva lot of people if her answer would be implemented ahead of that though.


Hey! Y'all quit talking about me like I'm not here, lol.

I do think white marlin's "plan" is less realistic than mine. I believe some type of economic collapse is more plausible than tariffs spurring economic growth. Economic growth occurs when free trade is allowed to flourish. Now, there is a flip side to that as well.... unchecked economic growth will lead to higher inflation. Perhaps that short-term pain marlin seems to want could come in the form of changing the target rate of inflation? Maybe instead of a 2% goal it should be increased to, say, 4%? That would allow for more economic growth, but the "average people" sure wouldn't like it. (P.S.- this is NOT what I think should be done, to be clear).

Now, in a true free market capitalist system without any government interference, this all would naturally work itself out. But, as we all know, that IS unrealistic.


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Re: Belisle 330 price!!!! [Re: Teacher] #8652601
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Doubling the price of plywood won't tank anything.

Re: Belisle 330 price!!!! [Re: Swamp Wolf] #8652604
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Re: Belisle 330 price!!!! [Re: Swamp Wolf] #8652624
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The answer you seek was accomplished in the 90's. Illegal tariffs are not the answer. Unfortunately, the deficet issue is now unmanageable.




Will seniors vote to cut themselves off to save the country? Not likely.


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Re: Belisle 330 price!!!! [Re: yotetrapper30] #8652640
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Originally Posted by yotetrapper30
Hey! Y'all quit talking about me like I'm not here, lol.

I do think white marlin's "plan" is less realistic than mine.


when did I offer a plan?

I merely explained what I perceive to be going on.

and expressed my opinion (based on at least 44 years of chicken littles crying about the debt); that it really hasn't seemed to collapse the economy, as was promised by said chickens. maybe it WILL someday. but so far...

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Re: Belisle 330 price!!!! [Re: Swamp Wolf] #8652677
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Can you see why the "chicken littles" may be starting to squawk?


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Re: Belisle 330 price!!!! [Re: Dirt] #8652678
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Originally Posted by Dirt
The answer you seek was accomplished in the 90's. Illegal tariffs are not the answer. Unfortunately, the deficet issue is now unmanageable.




Will seniors vote to cut themselves off to save the country? Not likely.


Why would seniors cut them selves off, you mean SS? That's still cash flowing.

Re: Belisle 330 price!!!! [Re: Donnersurvivor] #8652688
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Originally Posted by Donnersurvivor
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Can you see why the "chicken littles" may be starting to squawk?


"STARTING" to squawk?!??

if you read anything I've written...I've told you that the chicken littles have been squawking for 44 years; not just recently.

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Re: Belisle 330 price!!!! [Re: white marlin] #8652736
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Originally Posted by white marlin
Originally Posted by yotetrapper30
Hey! Y'all quit talking about me like I'm not here, lol.

I do think white marlin's "plan" is less realistic than mine.


when did I offer a plan?



Originally Posted by white marlin


no, our only real chance is to grow the economy OVER THE LONG HAUL.

if you have a REALISTIC better answer, let's see it! You, too, Donnersurvivor and Dirt.



You offered a plan there, which is a good plan......

It seemed to be implied that you felt tariffs would help to achieve that goal.

If I am mistaken, then apologies.


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Re: Belisle 330 price!!!! [Re: Swamp Wolf] #8652738
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About time a President had the balls to crack down on the one-way tariffs Pakistanada has been screwing us with all these years.Every one else ignored it because"Canada is our friend and ally".Now that we want to even the playing field"Trump is da DEVIL".


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Re: Belisle 330 price!!!! [Re: Swamp Wolf] #8652740
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Look at the federal budget rat. Ssa, most all the medical care money spent on seniors. The whole covid spending was to save seniors.


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Re: Belisle 330 price!!!! [Re: upstateNY] #8652754
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Originally Posted by upstateNY
About time a President had the balls to crack down on the one-way tariffs Pakistanada has been screwing us with all these years.Every one else ignored it because"Canada is our friend and ally".Now that we want to even the playing field"Trump is da DEVIL".


Yep... those tariffs cost GM $2 billion loss of profit last year already. All the US car manufacturers tanked today in the market. Sure is helping US manufacturing lol.


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Re: Belisle 330 price!!!! [Re: yotetrapper30] #8652773
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Originally Posted by yotetrapper30
Originally Posted by upstateNY
About time a President had the balls to crack down on the one-way tariffs Pakistanada has been screwing us with all these years.Every one else ignored it because"Canada is our friend and ally".Now that we want to even the playing field"Trump is da DEVIL".


Yep... those tariffs cost GM $2 billion loss of profit last year already. All the US car manufacturers tanked today in the market. Sure is helping US manufacturing lol.

You think he can fix this country overnight?Dont happen like that.Be nice if it did.Thats one problem with everyone.I want everything NOW.Trump is planing for the LONG TERM.And he knows what it takes.People remind me of the employee that just got into his companies 401-k yesterday,,and dont understand why he is not a millionair today.

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Re: Belisle 330 price!!!! [Re: Dirt] #8652777
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Originally Posted by Dirt



Will seniors vote to cut themselves off to save the country? Not likely.



Not likely? Not one chance.

Old people will blame it on the young.


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Re: Belisle 330 price!!!! [Re: Swamp Wolf] #8652847
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Re: Belisle 330 price!!!! [Re: Steven 49er] #8652851
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Originally Posted by Steven 49er
Originally Posted by Dirt



Will seniors vote to cut themselves off to save the country? Not likely.



Not likely? Not one chance.

Old people will blame it on the young.



Actually, they appear to like blaiming foriegners.


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Re: Belisle 330 price!!!! [Re: upstateNY] #8652856
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Originally Posted by upstateNY
About time a President had the balls to crack down on the one-way tariffs Pakistanada has been screwing us with all these years.Every one else ignored it because"Canada is our friend and ally".Now that we want to even the playing field"Trump is da DEVIL".


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