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Re: 40 trillion
[Re: Steven 49er]
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08/26/26 02:27 PM
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I agree with sp. Of you aren't feeling it you're lucky. My lifestyle hasn't changed much but it's changed. Thankfully I'm not raising a young family.
"Gold is money, everything else is just credit" JP Morgan
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Re: 40 trillion
[Re: Steven 49er]
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08/29/26 11:52 AM
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"Concerning Fiscal Math CBO?s latest outlook shows a deficit of about $1.9 trillion in 2026 and publicly held debt rising to about 120 percent of GDP by 2036, a level that would have been treated as a national emergency in prior eras. The story underneath is even more disturbing. Mandatory spending and compounding interest costs drive the long-run trajectory while Congress repeatedly turns budgeting into a cliffhanger, manufacturing shutdown threats and continuing resolutions over a shrinking slice of the budget. By 2036, discretionary spending will make up less than 20 percent of total federal outlays, yet it will likely still dominate the public drama.
That mismatch is the reason why the appropriations process, which determines discretionary spending, feels like constant crisis without producing long-run control. Net interest costs are projected to surge from roughly $1.0 trillion in 2026 to roughly $2.1 trillion by 2036, rising as a share of the economy from 3.3 percent of GDP to 4.6 percent. Those numbers matter because they describe a government that is steadily losing fiscal room to maneuver. When interest becomes one of the fastest-growing items in the budget, policy choices start to narrow even before anyone votes for austerity.
Despite these warnings, Congress continues to spend a disproportionate amount of time and political energy on annual appropriations brinkmanship. Shutdown threats dominate coverage, agencies plan around continuing resolutions, and the public is told the budget fight is underway, as if the main drivers of long-run debt are being tackled. They are not. The annual appropriations brawl is increasingly a fight over a smaller component, while the larger forces keep moving in the background.
If this sounds severe, it is because the situation is severe. A country that runs trillion-dollar deficits in ordinary times and watches debt climb toward historic peaks is not choosing a stable future. The real danger is that deterioration can feel manageable for a time until it suddenly is not. If interest rates rise higher than projected, or growth becomes weaker than expected, the debt math worsens quickly. The margin for error shrinks as interest costs rise. The risk is not merely higher debt in the abstract. The risk is reduced capacity to respond to recession, to fund defense and preparedness, and to protect vulnerable households when policy flexibility is most needed."
In the 70's discretionary spending was over half the budget. Discretionary spending is money spent on services ( actually building stuff and providing services or doing stupid stuff) the government provides. Interest provides no service and most mandatory spending is wealth transfer.
Who is John Galt?
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Re: 40 trillion
[Re: Steven 49er]
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08/29/26 04:03 PM
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A common theme in empires that had a debt backed currency
"Gold is money, everything else is just credit" JP Morgan
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Re: 40 trillion
[Re: ColdspringKidd]
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08/30/26 12:45 AM
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The labor hates the management and their grievances are justified in some situations
In some situations I am sure you are right. But, having worked crappy jobs most of my life, I have found that 99% of the time, the ones that complain the most about management are the ones that do the absolute LEAST work....
Regret is the one thing I just won't do ~~ Beth Dutton
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Re: 40 trillion
[Re: Steven 49er]
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08/30/26 09:51 AM
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Who celebrates Keynes as the savior of capitalism?  Nobody who runs perpetual deficits is even following Keynes.
Who is John Galt?
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Re: 40 trillion
[Re: Steven 49er]
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Yesterday at 01:14 PM
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Perfect!
More of the same.
"Gold is money, everything else is just credit" JP Morgan
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Re: 40 trillion
[Re: Steven 49er]
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Yesterday at 05:54 PM
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Myself, I?m in the Mises/Austrian/hard money camp
When ever someone speaks of entitlement,(a lot of that going on in Canada currently,,,) huge continual deficits,, ,,,,Bessent interveneing in the market/markets,,,
My mind goes straight Keynesian type thinking,,,
Don?t understand it,,,,, the Keynesian thinking
But it?s unfortunately the world we live in
And debt is only going to rapidly increase
Carry on
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Re: 40 trillion
[Re: Steven 49er]
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Yesterday at 07:16 PM
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Nothing to see here folks.
"Gold is money, everything else is just credit" JP Morgan
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Re: 40 trillion
[Re: OhioBoy]
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