Thanks. I have given it come thought and I also feel like there can be some concessions here from both parties. But I have given it thought and I have looked into it. I've found that historically the fill rates have hovered around 20% for milk, 30% for cream and 10% for yogurt. So, those importers you spoke of have almost 80, 70, and 90% wiggle room before the meet their quota. I'm not sure leaving that much on the table is becasue of the scary 250%. When viewing how far from the fill rates this trade has been one could say that importers are only importing 20% of what they could be. Because we buy 1 billion in dairy from you I understand why your money men would think, that is only 20% of what we could make, but clearly the quotas aren't the reason you aren't exporting 4-5 billion worth because current quotas would allow for that. We import significantly more dairy from you than you do from us, not that I feel that matters much.

For the record: as I said, some concessions could be made by both parties. I for one wish i could buy locally some of the wonderful cheeses of Wisconsin. I drug many wonderful varieties home when I was last through your state.

Trade Volume and Value of Dairy Trade
U.S. Exports to Canada
Canada is the second-largest export market for U.S. dairy products after Mexico (United States Department of Agriculture Economic Research Service [USDA ERS], 2023). U.S. dairy exports to Canada have grown significantly, rising by 48% from 2010 to 2021, from approximately $466 million in 2010 to $692 million in 2021. This growth accelerated after USMCA implementation in 2020. U.S. dairy exports to Canada were approximately $525 million in 2021, increasing to $718 million in 2022 and $757 million in 2023 (USDA ERS, 2023). By 2024, U.S. dairy exports reached an estimated $877 million, reflecting a 67% increase since 2021.
Canada’s Exports to the U.S.
Canada’s dairy exports to the U.S. are comparatively limited due to its supply management system. Canada’s total dairy exports globally were valued at approximately C$3.5 billion in 2021, with only a minor fraction going to the U.S. (Progressive Dairyman, 2023). Canadian dairy exports primarily consist of niche ingredients such as skim milk powder, whey, and premium cheeses. Given Canada’s focus on domestic supply, the trade imbalance is structural, with the U.S. exporting significantly more dairy to Canada than vice versa

Source UW Madison

“The U.S. exported CAD $887.5 million worth of dairy products to Canada in 2024, while importing $357.9 million worth from Canada. This trade balance is in the advantage of the United States.[quote][/quote]”

Source: Canada dairy farmers

“This form of “two-step” tariff or “tariff-rate quota” is not unique to Canada nor to dairy. It is a fairly common way to limit quantities imported. Under the agreement between Canada, United States and Mexico (CUSMA) for example, the U.S. has tariff-rate quotas for dairy from Canada and Canada has tariff-rate quotas for dairy from the US. “

You know that was just a slogan right? Aimed to get old guys like you believing in the gov’t.

Zoning, permitting, land use, environmental, health and safety, taxes to name a few. When the cost to do business gets to expensive or to large a head ach business move.

Not just international. Another good example are business leaving California for more business friendly states.

Fixed it for ya there bub. "I".....not "we"

I believe I understand what you think of that. It upsets to no end that you and your leader is bending the knee to Isreal.....and you're absolutely helpless to do anything about it. Now suck it up and accept it.
Do you understand how I feel about these tough talking internet warriors? Spineless twats.

Why should Canada be forced to allow in cheap U.S dairy that is heavily subsidized and produced with illegal labor? Shouldn't it obviously be in a countries best interest to protect their domestic food supply?

AWwwe,,did something trigger you and hurt your wittle feewings.Its ok little ShakeyCake,,,let it out and cry. Big brother America will pat your wittle head and make it all better like always.

What do you Canadians feel about your country becoming an Indian and a Chinese controlled colony?

Are you just going to allow it?

What do you think will happen to your families under Indian or Chinese rule?

Keith

They are too busy bashing America and getting high on Curry to notice.Oh,,and pretending they are all tough Lumber jack trapper guys living in "the bush"Haahaa,,only bush they are in is maybe a box of Busch Light.

Just admit the reason - you have a man crush on Boco.

Says the foreign expert on US politics.

Said ShakeyCake when asked to describe Canadians

Unless you can get pictures Xi Jinping wearing a Kippah, the Chinese threat will fall on death ears.

The Feather indians and the frenchmen run Canada.
We just let the pakis and the chinks in temporarily to work menial jobs.
When their visas run out they go back to their own country.
There is way less of them here now than there was under Trudope.
Carney capped the numbers of temporary foreign workers allowed in now.
Not a snowballs chance in hades they will ever run Canada-(about same chance as you have)

… your reading comprehension is lacking

… we decouple from the Middle East and let them fight their own holy war

… so we can focus on fixing ourselves and bigger issues like communist china

Here's a pretty good article explaining things from our side.

https://www.farmprogress.com/farm-policy/the-real-story-behind-canada-s-250-dairy-tariffs

Same question can be asked to you but add Israel to the top of the list.

Upstate, I see you’re a Loony Tunes fan……you’ll be glad to know there’s a new movie coming out.
Bush light? I’m guessing that’s some kinda bud lite knock off beer? You got me there…….
You like to dish it, but when you get it back it ain’t so fun eh?
Now go wash the sand outta your taco, man up and quit crying about Canadians making fun of you…….. lol

Not picking on you personally, your post just made me think about it.

For those clamoring for more manufacturing here..... to what end?

I agree it is essential to bring back/ keep certain industries here from a national security standpoint... but only certain ones.

I mean, U/E is at ~4% so very low. GDP is moving right along at a good clip. So, what's gonna happen if we bring back a lot of manufacturing? Well, first goods produced here will already cost much more due to the U.S.'s burdensome regulations and much higher wages. But then, there also won't be enough laborers to work all the new jobs either, which means companies will have to compete much harder for employees -- raising prices even more......OR import more foreigner workers.

People seem to think bringing back a bunch of manufacturing here will bring wealth and happiness to all but I just don't see how it would work out that way..... I think the focus should be on manufacturing the items critical to our countries survival and let Nike and Fruit of the Loom continue to utilize foreign labor to manufacture their disposable products at affordable prices.....

From ShakeyCake who was just crying a little while ago cause he cant take it.Happy to see you in better spirits now.Thought maybe you wet the bed,,er I mean went to bed for the night.Glad someone patted your tiny wittle head and made your boo boo all better.