This has been debated in the past. I know there is a no kill zone above the lungs that a deer can survive a shot there Yeah bring out the drawings of anatomy blah blah

Here you go How about a real pic

well now I know where not to shoot lol

Thats where i have shot the 5 deer i have lost in my life. Also where a friend shot a nice buck and discribed the hit and blood trail to me that sounded the same as the few I lost. 2 weeks later it was back on camara like that one with healing hole from the arrow in its back.

I agree with you 100% on this spot being a survivable hit. I do have a theory unproven that it also depends on if the deer is inhaling or exhaling and where at in the process. That if its fully exhaling at the hit lu gs are deflated opening a space. But if lungs are expanded that space gets smaller or eliminated.

i like that theory

I also think think what part of the pump cycle the heart is in when the bullet hits has something to do with how the deer responds.. would explain why some deer drop and other run some with the same exact shot placement.

Explanation. When the heart is at full contraction blood pressure thought the body is at max. Whe a bullet hits than it short circuits the system driving the pressure higher from impact and hydrostatic shock. But if its at the relaxed stage the system can handle the increased shock and pressure better.

But these are just personal theories that make since to this dumb hillbilly with no scince I know of to back it up.

Edit. Once when I was 17 I had a large chunk of lung blow out of a doe I shot with 12 g rifles slug at 5 yards on the entrance side sending it over my head. That the only time I have seen that and trying to figure out why is what got me thinking about pressure, expansion, and what stage body parts and systems are in at impact.

A spike through the blood system when its already at max pressure increases pressure in the entire body including the brain. Easy to see how that could increase droping in their track at least to me.

For an archery hot, the wound is too high to get lungs, too low for a spine.

Hit with a bullet, the deer would most likely drop where it stood from the shock of the bullet damaging spinal cord.

Yes you are correct . BUT YOU BETTER get ready to shoot again. After the shock wears off they might get up. Muzzle loader round there and they will run every time. Just ask my son. LOL He shot a 140 in 10 point . It fell he got down walked up to it reloading as he was walking. It jumped up and ran off. Neighbors killed it next morning.

Truth
Shoot top of front leg where the scapula thins
Deer folds on the spot

That 330 is what I call the OFF button

Yes...Fold them like a Dove.

Close but no cigar

What's he got a bag on his leg?

And if you miss by just a little you have one just like pictured above. I am a lung shooter. Right behind the leg in the lower 1/3. They may run but they won't run far.

The target spot is the whole Scapula if you can't hit a four by four scapula, then there's something wrong

I would wager a pretty penny that many can't hit that a 4 inch target at 200 yards unless it is off a benchrest.

Moose get wounded by folks not understanding their anatomy. The hump on their backs cause people to aim too high…..bullet ends up shocking them and they’ll go down. But not for long.

A moose that collapses on the spot was either head shot or spined. A bullet in the vitals is going to kill it, but seldom will one fall over when hit. They’ll walk or trot off, get wobbly legged, and fall.

A moose that drops in its tracks, better rack another one into the chamber….

I shot a deer once that when I waa pulling the lungs out, one of the lungs was fused and healed to the spine, it wouln't pull free. Upon examineation I found that a broadhead had sliced into the top part of a lung, sliced the lower part of the spine, and lodged in the far rib.
I'll bet the blood-trail, with lung blood, convinced the huntet that the deer lay dead somewhere

Me too 160user double lung, no meat waste. Always a blood trail a newbie can follow

I aim the same.Go for the boiler room.

Ah, the old debate about the "void".