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Re: I don't hunt horns [Re: jbyrd63] #8675421
10/16/26 08:04 AM
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Originally Posted by jbyrd63
He needs to die. Won't ever be a more than what he is. IF you want a big one for the wall let someone else , kids, buddy kill him. He needs to die.


“Won’t ever be a more than what he is”

Am I missing something Jbyrd? As people called you out, you started to add “mass” and “kickers”

Isn’t mass and kickers more?

Thumbs up!


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Re: I don't hunt horns [Re: Yes sir] #8675439
10/16/26 08:43 AM
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If the mother of that buck goes on to have more fawns with the same small antler genes,would "culling" that buck for bad genes stop the spread of those small antler genes?

Re: I don't hunt horns [Re: Trap Setter] #8675442
10/16/26 08:48 AM
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Or would you have to hope the mother of that buck had small antlers yes sir,to determine which doe she is and effectively cull her to to stop the spread of the bad genes?

Re: I don't hunt horns [Re: Bdaniel] #8675444
10/16/26 08:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Bdaniel
Or would you have to hope the mother of that buck had small antlers yes sir,to determine which doe she is and effectively cull her to to stop the spread of the bad genes?

Dont share this with jbird but on does u can tell by the swirl in their hair on their forehead. The higher the swirl is the more points here offspring will have. The larger the swirl the more mass and kickers she will have. If she has antlers her offspring are sure enough going to be world record contenders if given tell maturity and born west of the big river

Re: I don't hunt horns [Re: Jurassic Park] #8675446
10/16/26 08:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Jurassic Park
Originally Posted by jbyrd63
He needs to die. Won't ever be a more than what he is. IF you want a big one for the wall let someone else , kids, buddy kill him. He needs to die.


“Won’t ever be a more than what he is”

Am I missing something Jbyrd? As people called you out, you started to add “mass” and “kickers”

Isn’t mass and kickers more?

Thumbs up!


ANY deer is like most people as they get older of course he will get bigger. DUH !!
Just like as you get older you become a bigger.. I better let you say that word. YOU are not worth getting a vacation over. But everyone knows the answer. Enjoy your weekend . I'm off to hand out smiles and laughter

Re: I don't hunt horns [Re: Yes sir] #8675451
10/16/26 09:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Yes sir
Originally Posted by Bdaniel
Or would you have to hope the mother of that buck had small antlers yes sir,to determine which doe she is and effectively cull her to to stop the spread of the bad genes?

Dont share this with jbird but on does u can tell by the swirl in their hair on their forehead. The higher the swirl is the more points here offspring will have. The larger the swirl the more mass and kickers she will have. If she has antlers her offspring are sure enough going to be world record contenders if given tell maturity and born west of the big river



Bet you didn't know if a buck sleeps with its head down hill while antlers are forming in april they gain 13 inces in mass. More blood flow to their rack. Same with doe having triplets if she falls down head first after getting bred it increase her chance to have triplets by .00009% Same study got these results as the hair swirl biologist. Facts Look it up. JP has the link.LOL LOL LOL

Re: I don't hunt horns [Re: Trap Setter] #8675493
10/16/26 10:09 AM
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Our bucks in S Arkansas typically reach their peak B&C score at age 4.5/5.5. They may well have the most points at 4.5. They may gain a little mass at 5.5 - but an inch or two of mass doesnt make much difference. After 5.5, they typically start going downhill losing a point here or there. For the most part, they dont add inches after age 5.5 in S AR - unfortunately

Re: I don't hunt horns [Re: Trap Setter] #8675520
10/16/26 10:58 AM
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There's alot of air that blows out of Ky.

Re: I don't hunt horns [Re: jbyrd63] #8675534
10/16/26 11:35 AM
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Originally Posted by jbyrd63
Umm Delaware I think if you can get past your jealousy and read my first coupling post I said my first guess was 2.5 but after seeing his last pic I guessed 3.5. Thanks for making my point. Spent 2 days about 20 years ago working a check station with a wildlife biologist. His ONLY job was aging deer. It’s an educated guess at best but about 4-5 things he looked at if a deer wasn’t obviously a yearling. One deer was 15 in wide 8 pt that feild dressed 89 lbs every sign physical EXCEPT ANTLERS pointed to 1.5year old But after examining teeth. Hooves glands he estimated its age at 3.5. I asked what caused it?? Obvious it had some kind of dwarf problem. First explanation was severe inbreeding.



lol. Please explain what I’m supposed to be jealous of?

lol



Re: I don't hunt horns [Re: jbyrd63] #8675535
10/16/26 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by jbyrd63
Originally Posted by DelawareRob
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Just a six point… should have been “culled” a few years earlier. Haha

Exactly! That’s still six point that passed on crappy genes. Scoring wise he sucks. Want meat shoot a doe. You guys just keep posting pics proving my point
Honestly. What do you think that deer will score?
He’s in velvet so not official. 20wide. 19 in main beams That’s 78 4 short points plus circumstances. Might be100. That’s being generous



I don’t care about antlers. In fact, I like to shoot fawns, they are easier to load in the utv or truck that way. lol.

I asked my buddy, he said, “oh, I have no idea, who cares about that, it was very delicious though”.
I don’t care about what a deer scored either. Lol


No, really. I usually shoot only antlerless deer. I go out and use crop damage tags. Or I’m participating in a managed hunt where we target antlerless deer or mentored hunt and they shoot whatever they have tags for.

lol



Re: I don't hunt horns [Re: jbyrd63] #8675576
10/16/26 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by jbyrd63


Originally Posted by jbyrd63
He needs to die. Won't ever be a more than what he is. IF you want a big one for the wall let someone else , kids, buddy kill him. He needs to die.



ANY deer is like most people as they get older of course he will get bigger. DUH !!
Just like as you get older you become a bigger.. I better let you say that word. YOU are not worth getting a vacation over. But everyone knows the answer. Enjoy your weekend . I'm off to hand out smiles and laughter


Which one is it? He needs to die, won’t ever be more than what he is.

Or, as they get older of course he will get bigger.

I think you have CWD.


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Re: I don't hunt horns [Re: Trap Setter] #8676708
10/19/26 04:23 PM
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Shoot what you want, it’s nobody’s business but yours..

Re: I don't hunt horns [Re: grisseldog] #8676776
10/19/26 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted by grisseldog
Shoot what you want, it’s nobody’s business but yours..


These are all the facts…

It’s your tag, shoot what makes you happy.



Re: I don't hunt horns [Re: DelawareRob] #8676781
10/19/26 07:34 PM
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Originally Posted by DelawareRob
Originally Posted by grisseldog
Shoot what you want, it’s nobody’s business but yours..


These are all the facts…

It’s your tag, shoot what makes you happy.


Well that wasn't the question lol. It was an opinions wanted situation. But yeah thats how I think, if its legal and ethical go for it.


Life sure is tough when you don't learn from the mistakes of others.
Re: I don't hunt horns [Re: WhiteCliffs] #8676828
10/19/26 09:31 PM
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Originally Posted by WhiteCliffs
Our bucks in S Arkansas typically reach their peak B&C score at age 4.5/5.5. They may well have the most points at 4.5. They may gain a little mass at 5.5 - but an inch or two of mass doesnt make much difference. After 5.5, they typically start going downhill losing a point here or there. For the most part, they dont add inches after age 5.5 in S AR - unfortunately

I find this interesting as it seems to be the case in so many places. Here, however, the majority of bucks don’t peak until 6.5 or older, some not until like 8.5.

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