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Persimmons question #8684129
11/05/26 02:23 PM
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I picked one the other day and it was still extremely bitter,, but of course we have not. Had a hard frost either.
Took a few home and popped them in the freezer..
Do you guys think that freezing them might replace the frost effect?
Always heard they are bitter until after the frost..


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Re: Persimmons question [Re: foxkidd44] #8684139
11/05/26 02:38 PM
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Putting the persimmons in your freezer, to make them less astringent, works very well. The cell walls break down. The tannins then leak out and attach to other chemicals, making them no longer effect your saliva, which is what causes that unpleasant puckering in your mouth.

Keith

Re: Persimmons question [Re: foxkidd44] #8684170
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I have found the best 'Simmons are kinda dry and wrinkley.


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Re: Persimmons question [Re: foxkidd44] #8684369
11/05/26 09:55 PM
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'possums in the 'simmon tree, raccoon's on the ground...raccoon sez you son of a gun! Drop some 'simmons down.


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Re: Persimmons question [Re: foxkidd44] #8684371
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I get the Asian persimmons at the Russian grocery store, I love those things. I don't think they need to go through a freeze like the regular persimmons. If I thought I had enough years left in me I'd plant me a couple of trees. Does anyone know if they grow in the PNW? Beaverpeeler?


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Re: Persimmons question [Re: foxkidd44] #8684374
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Absolutely they do. When I was doing crop inspections back in the late 80's there was an orchard near Independence, Oregon of about 100 trees. They were loaded!


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Re: Persimmons question [Re: foxkidd44] #8684424
11/06/26 05:25 AM
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I pick mine off the ground.

Re: Persimmons question [Re: foxkidd44] #8684436
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Frost isnt what changes persimmons to something edible. If they come off the tree naturally on their own, they are good to eat. The ones that are picked or knocked out of the tree, you wont be anle to taste anything for a while.



Re: Persimmons question [Re: 52Carl] #8684494
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Originally Posted by 52Carl
I pick mine off the ground.

This! or pick the low hanging ones that are already wrinkled. Does not have to frost on them, they just have to be ripe. Color is not what will determine that. Has not frosted here yet, but I have already had a wonderful "simmon" pudding.

Re: Persimmons question [Re: SNIPERBBB] #8684499
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Originally Posted by SNIPERBBB
Frost isnt what changes persimmons to something edible. If they come off the tree naturally on their own, they are good to eat. The ones that are picked or knocked out of the tree, you wont be anle to taste anything for a while.


Yep, they will be bitter if not ripe no matter what you do to them.

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Freeze a green tomatoe . Does it turn red or yellow? Nope still not ripe.Put them on a window sill . They will be ok in few days.(see thread explain how many is a few)

Re: Persimmons question [Re: foxkidd44] #8684606
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Someone gave me a sack of the apple-sized seedless variety a month and a half ago. They were mostly yellow and hard as a carp. I put them in a big paper sack with a ripe banana for a month and they turned bright orange and softened up. Man are those things tasty!
I don't know if wild persimmons will ripen like that.

Re: Persimmons question [Re: foxkidd44] #8685132
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Are you needing a loan ?

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Re: Persimmons question [Re: foxkidd44] #8685180
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Seems I heard that the bitterness comes mainly from the skin. Might just try some of the meat.


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Re: Persimmons question [Re: foxkidd44] #8685187
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Pawpaw skins are bitter. Persimmons are not



Re: Persimmons question [Re: foxkidd44] #8685216
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Trying to pick them off the ground is a race between the deer. The coons and possums and myself…lol


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Re: Persimmons question [Re: foxkidd44] #8685260
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Originally Posted by foxkidd44
Trying to pick them off the ground is a race between the deer. The coons and possums and myself…lol


Put a sheet or tarp down and shake the tree, as well as you can. Persimmon trees can get over 80' tall, but most bearing trees are much shorter, usually in the 30 some foot range. Thin trees can just be shook as high as you can reach. On thicker trees, I use a long metal hook to knock fruit and nuts down by hooking branches and repeatedly pulling down. It works great. Ripe fruit and nuts easily fall off. Branches that start high on the tree, especially when the tree is laden with fruit, still often dangle low enough on the ends to hook.

A strong, but light rope with a rock or stick tied to the end, so you can throw it high over higher branches and catch them, works well too. When done, let the weight of the rock or stick pull it back to the ground by letting go of the other end. I prefer rocks over sticks. I just carve out the middle of the rock a little, so the rope holds well. Rocks fall clear easier when released.

Try to avoid getting hit in the face or head by falling fruit. I got a bruise from a black walnut and a cut and a bruise from another one this year, on my supraorbital ridges.

I've shook down persimmons, pawpaws, apples, pears, peaches, nectarines, plums, cherries, mulberries, buckeyes, acorns, black walnuts, heartnuts, buartnuts, pecans and hicans.

A strong, long metal hook is a very useful tool. I also use it to pull milk crates, pots and other items from truck beds and to move hay bales. They can be very useful in water trapping to hook traps and catches, that come loose, or that get tangled up. I have 3 long metal hooks of various lengths.

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Re: Persimmons question [Re: foxkidd44] #8685765
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Originally Posted by foxkidd44
Trying to pick them off the ground is a race between the deer. The coons and possums and myself…lol

My Beagles love them too! LOL You can always tell when it's time for the seeds to come back out!


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Re: Persimmons question [Re: beaverpeeler] #8686265
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Originally Posted by beaverpeeler
'possums in the 'simmon tree, raccoon's on the ground...raccoon sez you son of a gun! Drop some 'simmons down.

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