we should have elected gary johnson

sounds like you 2 are on the same team now James.

In my opinion, such a seizure scheme would be unconstitutional.

Jim

we should have elected gary johnson

James you are taking what the POTUS said out of context but you already knew that I am sure. LLL

YES!

UUUUHHHAAAHHH, WHAT IS ALEPPO ? LMAO !!!

w

Anyways...the partisan blindness is strong on this thread...

What would your response be if the person had a "D" in front of their name?

'Nother example of politics is a waste.

Canned dog food?

What would your response be if the person had a "D" in front of their name?

I want to think Trump had a momentary lapse where he was unaware of the implications of what he said and that anyone was listening, let alone the context in which it was said.

Did you get a "tingle up your leg" when you found out James?

"Due process" as required by our Constitution would require at least some kind of a hearing, with the opportunity to be heard and be represented by counsel, before a judge.

Jim

That wasn't a closed door meeting.

Unless you show what they were talking about, nothing but a liberal sound bite.

They were talking about someone who was already declared mentally ill by a doctor.

Vice President Mike Pence:
Violence, restraining orders, California has a version of this. And I think in your meeting with governors earlier this week, individually, and as a group, we spoke about the states taking steps. But the focus is to literally give families and give local law enforcement additional tools if an individual is reported to be a potential danger to themselves or others. Allow due process so no one’s rights are trampled but the ability to go to court, obtain an order and collect not only the firearms but any weapons in the possession.

President Trump:
Or, Mike, take the firearms first and then go to court. Because that’s another system. A lot of times by the time you go to court, it takes so long to go to court, to get the due process procedures. I like taking the guns early. Like in this crazy man’s case that just took place in Florida. He had a lot of firearms. They saw everything. To go to court would have taken a long time. You could do exactly what you’re saying but take the guns first, go through due process second.

U libs r right that Trump doesn't act like prior presidents. That is why he got elected. We r tired of the same old crap. The man is not a seasoned politician and that is why he is there-he is cleaning out the mess left by the prior presidents. He just keeps those D's guessing what's gonna happen next. Even though he's been hittin some speed bumps he's doin what we put him there to do! 5 stars yet!

Asking for forgiveness instead of permission is a common term used when people, groups or agencies want to do something they know is controversial and or not likely to take place, yet in the situation with firearms I guess that is not an appreciated thought process. President Trump to me is a good example of one who under a stiffer mental health code might not be able to own a firearm yet there are millions who would help him reload so he can continue on.

Bryce

If you left your trapperman account open and someone with nefarious intent posted what you just wrote, under your name and account, you'd be fine having your weapons seized with no due process?

Yep BBB, they were talking about people who already have problems.
Here in Pa. and i'm sure most states, you can't have a weapon if you have a restraining order against you. What Trump was saying, Refering to Pences statement about such people, no need to go to court again to take the weapons.

Yes. If you leave your account open and someone sends death threats you're going to have to deal with it. Don't leave your accounts open where nefarious people have access. Would you knowingly leave your wallet at the mall and think it's not your fault someone used your CC card?

For the first time we are getting to see what normally happened behind closed doors, thanks to Trump.

You liberals here wetting yourselfs, could you amagine what Obama or Clinton may have said about guns when we couldn't hear them?

Bet you'd change your tune about being a supporting Democrat if we could've!

Nefarious? while I dont think a crew mate would go so far, I do know you leave your account open it will came back writtne in japanese as your main language.

And again, no - not cool with it at all.

Hitler, Stalin, democrats (gestapo) all start by taking guns away without due process.

Your never going to have closed door meetings with both sides present without threat of imprisonement. One or both will sprint to the first microphone decrying what the nasty other side presented. Unless both sides don't want the public to find out.

NURSE .... NURSE..... The little green guy needs his meds again.

This statement makes me wonder if he is just trying to flush out members of congress who would agree with such a thing. Fodder for upcoming elections?

I doubt that. Your claiming that cameras are always rolling for public consumption everytime Trump meets with someone. That's absurd in the extreme and very stupid if it was.

I never claimed such.
I claimed you never saw these before, and i'm correct on that.

Trumpsplaining: The crickets from the left after Trump does good for America after they jumped on every word he said earlier.

Good job Lugnut!!!!

Just wait until the republicans lose more seats in November (maybe the majority), some of you guys will be working overtime making up excuses for Trump. He will flip on all kinds of issues because its how you play a reality TV show. He believes in nothing.

You know people should understand that anytime you have an initial meeting like that, whether closed or open, you should expect to hear dumb things and dumb ideas. The purpose of those meetings to float ideas. These ideas might be off the top of their head and half thought out ideas. This how things come about. You look at several ideas, sort out the bad ones, and pick the best. Any good meeting should appreciate the free flow of thoughts. Sometimes a good process comes out of left field, misspoken thought. There is no sense in getting wrapped up about how a THOUGHT comes out. Especially in the sound bite clips we get bombarded with. What matters is official process or legislation that comes out. People make mistakes when speaking openly.

Saying take the guns now and worry about due process later, is just a crass and stupid way word the process that is place now... Restraining orders.

Anyways...the partisan blindness is strong on this thread...

So conservatives disliked their own elected officials so much they voted in the class clown to straighten things out??? My old man would have said you cut off your nose to spit your face..

So your ok with him knocking on your door. Taking your guns because you said something to someone.. then government folks deciding if you meet their idea of nuts or not??? Cops couldn't find time to run the list of folks that could end up with them knocking on your door..Probably some of us on this post.

Mac

Living in a free society means you accept that there will be bad with the good...

If we abided by the 2A as it was written then we would have a little more faith in the due process clause.

All of the rights enumerated in the Constitution work hand in hand with each other. You start screwing around or amending one right and the rest might as well be toilet paper.

If we truly abided by the Constitution..."I'm going to be a professional school shooter" could be countered with, "You're going to be professional Swiss cheese if you try."

How will I explain myself to my grandkids when they all must suffer at the whims of a tyrant because I chose to protect their parents from a statistically microscopic threat?

Mike

Hey chicken littles the sky didnt start falling yet. Don't get your panties so wadded up! Nobodys knockin yet. And nobody's takin anything either!

nsa is illegally spying on people, warrantless searches are routinely conducted by local law enforcement, property (cash) is still being seized without any charges being filed.

more government lawlessness shouldn't surprise anyone. this stuff is going on because people accept it. we were well trained to accept it from birth. indoctrination continues with metal detectors school lock downs and book bag searches.

Mark, we should have elected Johnson.

The root problem with James original post is that Conservatives do not consider their president a King, savoir or despot. We consider our elected to be employees so to speak. If one gets something wrong, learns from it, while tying hard to solve a problem, we keep them on a while longer. The Libs consider their elected, Gods and leaders and such and soil themselves if one would even use incorrect grammar.
I give Trump a lot of credit for having a bipartisan forum, even though it would open him up for constant criticism and more childish rhetoric.
I give this story a big nothingburger and James an A+ for his CNN resume'.

In the wake of the mass shooting in Orlando that left 49 victims dead, Johnson says Americans would be safer if guns were more readily available, not more restricted

Orlando shooting at Pulse nightclub


"All these atrocities have been happening in gun-free zones," he declares. "If there were law-abiding citizens that were carrying weapons — I'm not saying they would lessen the impact of these horrible atrocities, but maybe, maybe they could."

Johnson says the laws permitting "concealed carry" in some states have reduced violent crime. A criminal might think, he suggests, "Gee, do I try to steal this woman's purse in this parking lot, or seven or eight of these people who are around here, are they carrying weapons and I might get hurt, so I'm going to not accost her." Over the past five years, he himself has purchased two guns, kept at his home in Taos, for self-protection.

He also sees possession of guns as a bulwark against government tyranny.

"I mean, there have been atrocious drug raids and atrocious drug raids that have resulted in the death of individuals that were completely innocent," he says. "I would just ask the question, if the DEA knew they were raiding someone's home where they had automatic weapons, if that was just a known element of 'we're going to raid these people,' would they have raided them in the first place, just knowing that they had that deterrent?"

Even so, Johnson also says he has a "nuanced" view of the Libertarian Party platform plank, which opposes "all laws at any level of government" restricting guns. "We should be open to a discussion on keeping guns out of the hands of the mentally ill," he says. "I don't know how that manifests itself, but I'm looking to get elected president of the United States. I just want to let people know I have an open mind about how we might, how government might, interject itself in a lot of the problems we have."

I don't trust politicians. Especially the ones who have invited Hillary to their wedding.

Maybe you aren't paranoid enough.

I think Trump gets a kick out of playing with the media.

So conservatives disliked their own elected officials so much they voted in the class clown to straighten things out??? My old man would have said you cut off your nose to spit your face..

So your ok with him knocking on your door. Taking your guns because you said something to someone.. then government folks deciding if you meet their idea of nuts or not??? Cops couldn't find time to run the list of folks that could end up with them knocking on your door..Probably some of us on this post.

Mac

BTW diggerman, just how much money did your gangster union bosses spend, of your money, to elect Hillary???????????????????????

They spent 100% of my money, Apparently you have to be "vested" for 10 years or they steal your retirement.

"If you don't know where you are going any road you take will get you there"

Bryce