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Re: How do Canadians manage traplines? [Re: Dirt] #6352395
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Originally Posted By: Dirt
Beav you trapped part of Canada.


I did.
I met a Ontario trapper at a NTA convention we became friends and he invited me up to trap. 7 weeks In the bush.

But If I wanted to put up numbers on things other then wolves lynx and marten I wouldn't be trapping In Ontario.

I'd be trapping rats and mink In ND fox In PA and beaver In SC. 300 beaver In a year In Ontario? I could do that In 2 months In SC and be warm doing It. Then toss In the 70 or 80 otter.


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Re: How do Canadians manage traplines? [Re: hippie] #6352414
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Originally Posted By: hippie
Lots of them?

Like i said above, looks like their way would be hard. I'm not talking Muskrats either (big pay critters when there is such a thing).


Yes, lots!

You don't think there aren't guys catching hundreds of coyotes in a year? Marten? Beaver? Racoon?

Why are you looking down on the muskrats? I think I'd rather own 3 or 4 thousand rats than a thousand PA foxes right now.


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Re: How do Canadians manage traplines? [Re: The Beav] #6352418
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Originally Posted By: The Beav
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Beav you trapped part of Canada.


I did.
I met a Ontario trapper at a NTA convention we became friends and he invited me up to trap. 7 weeks In the bush.

But If I wanted to put up numbers on things other then wolves lynx and marten I wouldn't be trapping In Ontario.

I'd be trapping rats and mink In ND fox In PA and beaver In SC. 300 beaver In a year In Ontario? I could do that In 2 months In SC and be warm doing It. Then toss In the 70 or 80 otter.


You need to think outside your box old buddy. I've done 300 beaver in 2 months in MN through the ice. Manitoba, Saskatchewan and Alberta is where it's at.


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Re: How do Canadians manage traplines? [Re: lumberjack391] #6352491
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Beav don't come to western PA for fox...….

Re: How do Canadians manage traplines? [Re: lumberjack391] #6352504
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Paul Millette did 1013 beaver thru the ice in a couple months by hearst on his own trapline and one other he flew into up north not to mention over 50 otter,300 marten,and lots of fisher wolves lynx rats and mink.
Not only that he put them all up.
He was also the top producer/shipper to NAFA for many years.

If a guy wants to work he can put up phenomenal numbers of high quality fur here.


Like Steven said there are high numbers of fur come out of Manitoba,Alberta,and Saskatchewan.
And Quebec produces more than all including Ontario.

I remember many times back in the 70's and 80's Cree families would come out of the bush in April on skidoos pulling tandem komatiks to meet the train after trapping all winter way north and west of kipling.They had fur bags that would near fill one end of the baggage car.

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Re: How do Canadians manage traplines? [Re: lumberjack391] #6352514
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Ya old buddy but I'm not busting ice. And I can sit on the veranda at the end of the day sipping a mint Julep LOL


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Re: How do Canadians manage traplines? [Re: lumberjack391] #6352518
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Beav if we was both younger I would like to try trapping beaver with you in Carolina.Maybe bring along your buddy steve too.
I don't know about that mint stuff,but I have tried some firewater from down that way before.There are fisher trappers in maine like That former wfsc director who uses beaver for fisher bait.

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Re: How do Canadians manage traplines? [Re: lumberjack391] #6352551
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laugh

Figured that would get more out than we only catch enough to keep a healthy line.

Re: How do Canadians manage traplines? [Re: lumberjack391] #6352556
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Have to go by the live houses.Some lines like shown have extremely dense populations.
I just got a request from the MNR to trap a remote line that has been vacant for a couple years,should be interesting.

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Re: How do Canadians manage traplines? [Re: lumberjack391] #6352568
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Go get em old timer. LOL


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Re: How do Canadians manage traplines? [Re: hippie] #6352569
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Originally Posted By: hippie
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Figured that would get more out than we only catch enough to keep a healthy line.


How do you know those numbers won't sustain a healthy line.

Boco, the reason I didn't mention Ontario and Quebec is I know little about them and they don't have coyotes lol. But of course there has to be some monster catches coming from the provinces. All one has to do is look at how massive they are, how diverse the terrain is and how few people live in your country. It only stands to reason a trapper is only limited by his own vision.

You know me Beav, I don't imbibe. At night we'll be skinning.

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Re: How do Canadians manage traplines? [Re: lumberjack391] #6352577
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One thing a lot of people don't realize(I even had to remind some new MNR people) is that every inch of Ontario crown land is someones trapline.


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No coyotes in Ontario? Oh my friend...we have a lot of really mangy lousy coyotes! lol

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Or limited by the line he has. The quota's they showed at the start of this thread tells me they ain't catching hundreds.

Which is it?

Re: How do Canadians manage traplines? [Re: hippie] #6352586
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Originally Posted By: hippie
Or limited by the line he has. The quota's they showed at the start of this thread tells me they ain't catching hundreds.

Which is it?


The quota's they showed are only on their line at present time. Other lines have different quota's.They also said in the beginning that a trapper can own multiple lines. Also they can trap on private property and still own multiple lines on crown land. The non crown areas don't have quotas or at least that's my understanding.

Don't get stuck thinking inside the box. Marty Senneker isn't catching several hundred of the best coyotes on the planet on crown land.


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On my buddies trap line you would be lucky to catch 40 beaver even If you were working at It. But he catches quite a few marten. If I remember we caught 52 while I was there.


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Originally Posted By: Hutchy
No coyotes in Ontario? Oh my friend...we have a lot of really mangy lousy coyotes! lol



They don't count.


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I would think having a registered line on crown land would slow a numbers guy down. Except for Beavers that is, saw lots of them on Crown land when i was there.

Re: How do Canadians manage traplines? [Re: The Beav] #6352596
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Originally Posted By: The Beav
On my buddies trap line you would be lucky to catch 40 beaver even If you were working at It. But he catches quite a few marten. If I remember we caught 52 while I was there.

l.

Ontario is a big province buddy, it starts on the west side of Lake of the Woods and goes almost to Vermont. It's 415,000 square miles, Wisconsin about 65,000. 415,000 square miles! Get out of the box, your buddies line is only indicative of his line.


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Re: How do Canadians manage traplines? [Re: lumberjack391] #6352600
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Elaborate hippie,I don't understand your question.Ontario is huge.It spans climate zones from Carolinian in the south to arctic in the north,not all traplines will have the same animals available.Some like hutchys will have a few marten being at the southern limit of their range.I have no coon,Matt Duncan in the south would have hundreds.
But there is no limit to the number of traplines you can trap on.I have trapped 5 lines in my younger days,many still do trap multiple lines.I have 7 lines available to me right now,obviously I cannot manage that many at my age.3 is my limit now.

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