Re: How do Canadians manage traplines?
[Re: hippie]
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10/20/18 09:47 PM
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Steven 49er
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I would think having a registered line on crown land would slow a numbers guy down. Except for Beavers that is, saw lots of them on Crown land when i was there. How about marten? Don't forget a trapper with a registered line isn't only relegated to trapping on that line. He can also trap private ground outside of crown land.
"Gold is money, everything else is just credit" JP Morgan
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Re: How do Canadians manage traplines?
[Re: lumberjack391]
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10/20/18 09:47 PM
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If we get the notion to go trap cototes out west, fox in the east, coon in the mid-west or Beaver/Otter down south, we can go do it and cover lots of turf via vehicle on roads. Those northern lines you have, i can't understand how you can put the numbers up like guys here do, while running a sno-go and chopping ice.
And first you have all those hoops to jump thru just to get a line. Here we just saddle up and get after it.
There comes a point liberalism has gone too far, we're past that point.
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Re: How do Canadians manage traplines?
[Re: lumberjack391]
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10/20/18 09:48 PM
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Steven 49er
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Boco, can you give an example of the square mile size of some of these line?
"Gold is money, everything else is just credit" JP Morgan
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Re: How do Canadians manage traplines?
[Re: Steven 49er]
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10/20/18 09:49 PM
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I would think having a registered line on crown land would slow a numbers guy down. Except for Beavers that is, saw lots of them on Crown land when i was there. How about marten? Don't forget a trapper with a registered line isn't only relegated to trapping on that line. He can also trap private ground outside of crown land. Thought we were talking registered lines?
There comes a point liberalism has gone too far, we're past that point.
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Re: How do Canadians manage traplines?
[Re: hippie]
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10/20/18 09:55 PM
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Steven 49er
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If we get the notion to go trap cototes out west, fox in the east, coon in the mid-west or Beaver/Otter down south, we can go do it and cover lots of turf via vehicle on roads. Those northern lines you have, i can't understand how you can put the numbers up like guys here do, while running a sno-go and chopping ice.
And first you have all those hoops to jump thru just to get a line. Here we just saddle up and get after it. Just because you can't understand it doesnt mean it can't be done. I'm not trying to be rude just trying to open your mind. There are guys in the lower 48 who have put up some pretty big numbers of beaver running off snocats and chopping ice. Don't forget they can also trap fall and spring. Boats and atvs are effective means of travel as well. Also don't forget that some of these areas that Boco is talking about is south of where I live.
"Gold is money, everything else is just credit" JP Morgan
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Re: How do Canadians manage traplines?
[Re: hippie]
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10/20/18 09:58 PM
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Steven 49er
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Thought we were talking registered lines?
I thought we were talking about Canadian trappers. It doesnt matter though, 500 Beaver Plus marten, fisher, otter etc wouldnt be all that difficult in some of the areas I've spent time in. Biggest obstacle would be having a market to drive a man that hard.
"Gold is money, everything else is just credit" JP Morgan
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Re: How do Canadians manage traplines?
[Re: lumberjack391]
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10/20/18 10:05 PM
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I think my buddies line was something like 38 square miles. But It all wasn't trappable.
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Re: How do Canadians manage traplines?
[Re: lumberjack391]
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10/20/18 10:10 PM
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That's only a township, he needed a couple more lol.
"Gold is money, everything else is just credit" JP Morgan
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Re: How do Canadians manage traplines?
[Re: Steven 49er]
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10/20/18 10:38 PM
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Boco, can you give an example of the square mile size of some of these line? I don't know about "Boco's" areas lines but my last BC line was probably a little larger than average at 305 sq. miles or basically 8.5 townships.
The only constant in trapping is change so keep learning.
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Re: How do Canadians manage traplines?
[Re: lumberjack391]
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10/20/18 10:50 PM
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Can a US citizen buy a Trapline in Ontario?
Can a US citizen legally qualify as a helper on a line? If not, can a US citizen go along on the line as an observer or photographer.
Sometimes it is rough being an Alien!
By the way, I really like the Canadian approach of regulating traplines. I would love to have my own region with exclusivity.
Best wishes.
FRAC LIVES MATTER
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Re: How do Canadians manage traplines?
[Re: lumberjack391]
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10/20/18 11:20 PM
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My main trapline is roughly 350 sq km,and the other lines I trap are about the same.Just north of me there are lines 1200 sq km and further north bigger yet. Some lines south and east are about 150 sq km,but are higher density for fur usually(more water,higher ground,less muskeg).The rule of thumb is that the further north you go the bigger the lines.
Unfortunately,maybe,Non residents of Canada cannot trap in Ontario.
Winter means better acess into better fur country.Trapping around roads is never as productive as getting into the interior of a trapline.
Last edited by Boco; 10/20/18 11:24 PM.
Forget that fear of gravity-get a little savagery in your life.
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Re: How do Canadians manage traplines?
[Re: The Beav]
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10/21/18 12:18 AM
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Beav you trapped part of Canada. I did. I met a Ontario trapper at a NTA convention we became friends and he invited me up to trap. 7 weeks In the bush. But If I wanted to put up numbers on things other then wolves lynx and marten I wouldn't be trapping In Ontario. I'd be trapping rats and mink In ND fox In PA and beaver In SC. 300 beaver In a year In Ontario? I could do that In 2 months In SC and be warm doing It. Then toss In the 70 or 80 otter. Why don't you want to take one of your options to put up numbers?
Who is John Galt?
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Re: How do Canadians manage traplines?
[Re: lumberjack391]
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10/21/18 11:00 AM
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My guess is northern Canada is much like here. I need 500 square miles just to scratch out a meager living. This would be about 1300 sq kilometers. In many places you will have to spend years cutting and maintaining trails. Trapping is not where the real work is.
Who is John Galt?
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Re: How do Canadians manage traplines?
[Re: lumberjack391]
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10/21/18 11:36 AM
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Dirt I've done the ND thing on rats. And put up some decent numbers. Trapped In the Carolinas for 15 years. Most of the time I was In the 380 range on beaver and 60 on otter. Best year was 406 beaver and 81 otter. WE all so did well In the live market.
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Re: How do Canadians manage traplines?
[Re: lumberjack391]
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10/21/18 12:23 PM
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I always find the obsession with numbers odd. Is that how they score trapping these days? I certainly understand trapping lots of income producing wildlife, but catching 100's of animals that make me little money really has no appeal. I sometimes think the trapper motto should be "Work harder not smarter!"
Who is John Galt?
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Re: How do Canadians manage traplines?
[Re: Dirt]
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10/21/18 12:43 PM
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In many places you will have to spend years cutting and maintaining trails. Trapping is not where the real work is. This. For me access is the limiting factor. More trail equals more fur basically . Then a fire comes through and it’s back to square one. Spend a lot time of time checking beaver houses to find the live ones. And in order to reach out farther line camps need to be put up. But no other trappers even close by so I’m able to manage my take as I see fit. I digress- back to the Canadian system. What do you all do if a fire takes out your whole area?
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Re: How do Canadians manage traplines?
[Re: Boco]
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10/21/18 01:51 PM
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My main trapline is roughly 350 sq km,and the other lines I trap are about the same.Just north of me there are lines 1200 sq km and further north bigger yet. Some lines south and east are about 150 sq km,but are higher density for fur usually(more water,higher ground,less muskeg).The rule of thumb is that the further north you go the bigger the lines.
Unfortunately,maybe,Non residents of Canada cannot trap in Ontario.
Winter means better acess into better fur country.Trapping around roads is never as productive as getting into the interior of a trapline. Thanks Boco. I understand the need for cold to trap, the fella we hunted with we used his trails and they weren't froze. Talk about a nightmare! lol. We left for his camp at 8 one morning with all tracked 6 wheelers and Argo's. We corduroyed alot of places but turned around and didn't get out of that place till 2 tne next morning! If you stood in one place too long, ya started to sink, lol. Next day we went north to a different line and barely got into that place. Till we left after 2 weeks, it was froze and we sifted right out. Talking to him since, with the global warming we have, he started to rent a helicopter during deer season to get hunters into his camps. I also have a cousin who has trapped up there. Not sure how he did it, maybe just a ride along, but i'm not totally ignorant (just enough to ask dumb questions ;)) as to the trapping up there as some seem to think. I spent two weeks in his camp and talked alot to him about his trapping. That's when he said about the 25 dollar bounty and how he run his line. Definitely a different world from what we have here. Hope ya get some cold weather!
There comes a point liberalism has gone too far, we're past that point.
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