Sent Killer and trapping?
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Is there any benefits from using "sent killer" while trapping? Maybe on the boots or gloves? I dont believe its possible to get a set completly sent free but have any of you used these types of sent reducing products and found any advantage?
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Re: Sent Killer and trapping?
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It's a waste of time and money.
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Re: Sent Killer and trapping?
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Best coyote and fox lure going.
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Re: Sent Killer and trapping?
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Do you mean : Scent Killer ? (as in human scent ?)
It falls under the heading : "A fool and his money are soon parted"
Don't waste your time. Keep your operation clean, within reason and learn to put in a set fairly quick, so that you get in and out without a lot of extra tramping around. Too many animals are caught without using products that 'claim' to remove your scent. Well, thats why I ask the experts. I thought it may help spraying a little on the trap before its bedded. I have had 1-2 coyote sets a day lightly dug out as in not removed from the bed but some of the trap exposed. I thought this snake potion 1000s of deer hunters use may help if applied to the trap before bedded.
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Re: Sent Killer and trapping?
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Its unnecessary for trapping. But i do believe in a little scent killer when im bow hunting. I do think it helps a little.
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Re: Sent Killer and trapping?
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Rub yourself down with a greasy beaver carcass.Everything in the bush is attracted to beaver,you will be like the pied piper.
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Re: Sent Killer and trapping?
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At one time,I was plant manager for Scent Shield.Which was the first scent killer on the market. Bow hunters were the #1 customers. Never did try it for trapping. Tom
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Re: Sent Killer and trapping?
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10/23/18 07:34 AM
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I use dead down wind detergent, deodorant and soap for clothes and showering, just to avoid overwhelming perfume scents. But that is far as I go with scent reducing products for trapping.
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Re: Sent Killer and trapping?
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At one time,I was plant manager for Scent Shield.Which was the first scent killer on the market. Bow hunters were the #1 customers. Never did try it for trapping. Tom Do you believe it helps at all? I thought it could help when your getting ready to leave the set to just mist down the area where you were while setting the trap.
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Re: Sent Killer and trapping?
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Gee I wonder if criminals ever used it to evade police dogs? Not likely...but wouldn't that be a good test? I've never seen that I one of the commercials for it. Hey if it gives you confidence in your set, go for it. I bet a cover up like good misting of fox pee plus that pee as attractant would go farther toward success. Jim 
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Re: Sent Killer and trapping?
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Gee I wonder if criminals ever used it to evade police dogs? Not likely...but wouldn't that be a good test? I've never seen that I one of the commercials for it. Hey if it gives you confidence in your set, go for it. I bet a cover up like good misting of fox pee plus that pee as attractant would go farther toward success. Jim I thought I did see that test at one time or another. It didn’t work, the dogs found the hiding individual pretty quickly.
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Re: Sent Killer and trapping?
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I remember my dad killing a lot of deer with a bow way back when he was logging all day long. Bright blue sweatshirt, stunk like gas/oil chainsaw mix, and sweat. He always told me jey wasnt in the gimmics of camo or cover scents. He said just don't move, period. Get up high and don't move. They will pick up movement or noise way before they get worried about scent. I liked his approach to the woods. Jim
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Re: Sent Killer and trapping?
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How did the old timers ever catch anything without all these gismos. The extent of my scent control is leather gloves..... Overthinking everything will screw you up. Set on sign, bed your trap tight and move on.
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Re: Sent Killer and trapping?
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How did the old timers ever catch anything without all these gismos. The extent of my scent control is leather gloves..... Overthinking everything will screw you up. Set on sign, bed your trap tight and move on. I set with bare hands. Most of the scent left will be from your body. Just get in, set and get out as quickly as possible and you will have little problem. Coyotes are generally quite familiar with human scent and will know that you were there; you just don't want to leave a bunch at the set.
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Re: Sent Killer and trapping?
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How did the old timers ever catch anything without all these gismos. The extent of my scent control is leather gloves..... Overthinking everything will screw you up. Set on sign, bed your trap tight and move on. I set with bare hands. Most of the scent left will be from your body. Just get in, set and get out as quickly as possible and you will have little problem. Coyotes are generally quite familiar with human scent and will know that you were there; you just don't want to leave a bunch at the set. Yep
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Re: Sent Killer and trapping?
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As far as trapping predators goes,scent control is all about keeping things natural.In other words keep all smells in their place.One obvious example-no bait scent on traps\snares,to draw the animals attention. The smell of human is just another animal smell to the predators.If they connect your smell with a free meal,they wont be spooked by your scent,quite the contrary.
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Re: Sent Killer and trapping?
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As another member mentioned. While deer hunting I have on several occasions seen fox, coyote and bear moving along through the woods or in a field and when they crossed my path they had a very negative response. From jumping about a foot in the air to turning around and running like they were shot out of a cannon. I was moose hunting with a friend and when the moose cut our trail he put his nose to the ground and pulled his ears back and got very nervous so to generally say "sent dont bother critters" is not the case everywhere. It was not my intention to hurt anyone's feelings  I just thought that many top bow hunters swear by its advantages so that was the reason for the question. As a note: I dont believe its possible to totally eliminate all human odor at the set but I think we can all agree that there are ways to decrease human odor.
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Re: Sent Killer and trapping?
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I remember seeing something on the Discovery channel where the guy was explaining how k9's smell. Long story short they can separate smells . So it's kinda like a stew. As humans we can smell the main scent of the combined ingredients whereas they can pick out the individual ingredients.
Seems kinda funny when you think about the deer hunters who put doe urine on themselves as a cover scent. That ole buck is probably thinking," the heck is a doe doing 40' up a tree with a human ?"
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Re: Sent Killer and trapping?
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Wolfy and thereafter the buck became suspicious of all his does. Checking them for human scent, asking them where they were all night, going through their purses and cell phones. Oh the mistrust that a little doe in heat cover scent must have caused in that deer herd. First time the buck caught a doe licking a candy wrapper I bet he came unglued on her. Called her a bait corn lover or something like that. Getting her dinner at the humans deer feeder instead of foraging and browsing in the woods like a respectable doe. Sheesh, some does....
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Re: Sent Killer and trapping?
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Boco “As far as trapping predators goes, scent control is all about keeping things natural.In other words keep all smells in their place.One obvious example-no bait scent on traps\snares,to draw the animals attention. The smell of human is just another animal smell to the predators.If they connect your smell with a free meal,they wont be spooked by your scent,quite the contrary.”
Lots of information in this statement that can make your life on the line easier if you take it it.
“As another member mentioned. While deer hunting I have on several occasions seen fox, coyote and bear moving along through the woods or in a field and when they crossed my path they had a very negative response. From jumping about a foot in the air to turning around and running like they were shot out of a cannon. I was moose hunting with a friend and when the moose cut our trail he put his nose to the ground and pulled his ears back and got very nervous so to generally say "sent dont bother critters" is not the case everywhere.”
I would never say that human scent will not cause an adverse initial effect on any critter. I do not doubt the stores like the one above of animals showing a negative reaction to hitting a human's trail.
I also would suspect that an animal, say a canine, in rural Maine might behave a bit differently to human scent than say the same type of critter in a heavy agriculture area in Pa., Indiana, Illinois etc.
But there are a couple things to consider. As Boco explained, animals can become almost excited to hit your scent if they associate it with a free meal. It is doubtful you can ever make a set for a critter and not leave human scent. The most logical thing to do is be basically clean in that keep traps free from lure and bait odors, get in and get out. You are making a set, not building a piano.
Back when I had a lot of free time and gas was cheap I did a lot of pre-baiting. Often handled bait with bare hands, on purpose.
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Wolfy and thereafter the buck became suspicious of all his does. Checking them for human scent, asking them where they were all night, going through their purses and cell phones. Oh the mistrust that a little doe in heat cover scent must have caused in that deer herd. First time the buck caught a doe licking a candy wrapper I bet he came unglued on her. Called her a bait corn lover or something like that. Getting her dinner at the humans deer feeder instead of foraging and browsing in the woods like a respectable doe. Sheesh, some does.... I know that feeling...... 
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Boco “As far as trapping predators goes, scent control is all about keeping things natural.In other words keep all smells in their place.One obvious example-no bait scent on traps\snares,to draw the animals attention. The smell of human is just another animal smell to the predators.If they connect your smell with a free meal,they wont be spooked by your scent,quite the contrary.”
Lots of information in this statement that can make your life on the line easier if you take it it.
“As another member mentioned. While deer hunting I have on several occasions seen fox, coyote and bear moving along through the woods or in a field and when they crossed my path they had a very negative response. From jumping about a foot in the air to turning around and running like they were shot out of a cannon. I was moose hunting with a friend and when the moose cut our trail he put his nose to the ground and pulled his ears back and got very nervous so to generally say "sent dont bother critters" is not the case everywhere.”
I would never say that human scent will not cause an adverse initial effect on any critter. I do not doubt the stores like the one above of animals showing a negative reaction to hitting a human's trail.
I also would suspect that an animal, say a canine, in rural Maine might behave a bit differently to human scent than say the same type of critter in a heavy agriculture area in Pa., Indiana, Illinois etc.
But there are a couple things to consider. As Boco explained, animals can become almost excited to hit your scent if they associate it with a free meal. It is doubtful you can ever make a set for a critter and not leave human scent. The most logical thing to do is be basically clean in that keep traps free from lure and bait odors, get in and get out. You are making a set, not building a piano.
Back when I had a lot of free time and gas was cheap I did a lot of pre-baiting. Often handled bait with bare hands, on purpose. Great points. And well taken. I am pulling my sets. My son has a moose tag for Zone 16, probably one of the least populated zones in Maine short of Portland. Should I bait my dirt holes with smelts just to give them a little something while I am gone? I need to pull them and re dye and wax them anyway. I did not have any wax/dye earlier but the traps had been hanging in the woods so I took a chance. But every day if I dont get a coyote the foxes dig 1-2 sets.
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