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Pipe Dream #6394231
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Just got my copy of NAFA'S International Trapper magazine. Inside is an article on the pipe dream set, using a length of gray conduit pipe to hold bait and lure. Had anyone here used this set? What success have you had?

Re: Pipe Dream [Re: SkyeDancer] #6394235
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Work!!, but follow directions closely. i.e. I place the pipe so only 3/4” is above ground AND with backing. Practice,practice,practice.

Re: Pipe Dream [Re: SkyeDancer] #6394243
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Re: Pipe Dream [Re: SkyeDancer] #6394272
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Works great. I use it for 1/4 of my sets and it catches 1/2 of my coyotes.

Re: Pipe Dream [Re: SkyeDancer] #6394335
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Would have come in handy this fall as we had a lot more rain. Dirtholes made in clay were full of water

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Re: Pipe Dream [Re: SkyeDancer] #6394965
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I live in SC. Was just wondering how it would work down here in the south?


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Re: Pipe Dream [Re: SkyeDancer] #6395051
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They work.quick to put in too.its one of those sets if done right you dnt haveto worry about it in bad weather.and also they really haveto work to get at the bait in the pipe. Really keeps em working the set and shuffling there feet around.after a catch if they haven't pulled the pipe up the end of it will be chewed up where they were still trying to get at the bait.just re bait and ur ready to go.if pipe is pulled just pond back in and re bait and ur good to go. If backing is wollered down just dig up a grass clump and transplant.good to go

Re: Pipe Dream [Re: SkyeDancer] #6395719
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I wonder if putting a couple small holes in either side of the pipe an inch or so down would support even better scent dispersal?

Re: Pipe Dream [Re: SkyeDancer] #6395758
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I'm pritty sure zaggers original pipe dream set talked about had a hole drilled in the pipe. But I think it was to let water out

Re: Pipe Dream [Re: Arkansas87] #6395798
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It was. I am talking about a couple, say on on each side toward the top for added dispersal of scent. I will also put a small wad of sheep's wool in before scent/bait. Just trying to improve on the wheel.

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Re: Pipe Dream [Re: SkyeDancer] #6396486
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The set is awesome,try it you'll like it.

Re: Pipe Dream [Re: SkyeDancer] #6396503
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Originally Posted by SkyeDancer
I wonder if putting a couple small holes in either side of the pipe an inch or so down would support even better scent dispersal?


Winner winner chicken dinner!!!! Pound a pipe in the ground without a hole and pound a pipe in the ground with a hole. Drop a cigarette butt in each one and watch how the smoke disperses. You will see a big difference. Just like opening up the draft in a wood burner.

Re: Pipe Dream [Re: Dfabs] #6396505
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And you only need one hole, not a couple

Re: Pipe Dream [Re: SkyeDancer] #6396727
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You guys ever notice the coyotes don't want to step on the hay? I spread the hay out wider than where the trap is placed. Just curious if others see this?


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Re: Pipe Dream [Re: SkyeDancer] #6396765
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I am going to try this set since it's freeze resistant.

My only question is, if the haylage is cut up with scissors, what are the chances of it blowing off during any type of wind storm? How does everyone combat that issue?


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Re: Pipe Dream [Re: SkyeDancer] #6396800
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Metal screen for cover helps.

Re: Pipe Dream [Re: Dfabs] #6397059
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Originally Posted by Dfabs
And you only need one hole, not a couple


I would agree, provided the "drainhole" remains above ground. Now if you have ever seen the diagram provided by Mr. Zagger, it depicts the drainhole half way down on a 9-10 inch pipe with 2-3 inches left above ground. Now this may simply be a misrepresentation in the diagram. Thinking so, I reread the recent article in NAFA's IT magazine, but found no answer. This said, then the drainhole should be no more then 3 inches below the top of the pipe. Given i have no experience with this set, I will need to rely on those out there with experience who can actually be of help.

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MZ no longer uses a drain hole


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Re: Pipe Dream [Re: dustytinner] #6397078
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Originally Posted by dustytinner
MZ no longer uses a drain hole


Thanks for the info, I just sent him a pm to ask about placement. Do you know why?

Re: Pipe Dream [Re: SkyeDancer] #6397276
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Originally Posted by SkyeDancer
Originally Posted by Dfabs
And you only need one hole, not a couple


I would agree, provided the "drainhole" remains above ground. Now if you have ever seen the diagram provided by Mr. Zagger, it depicts the drainhole half way down on a 9-10 inch pipe with 2-3 inches left above ground. Now this may simply be a misrepresentation in the diagram. Thinking so, I reread the recent article in NAFA's IT magazine, but found no answer. This said, then the drainhole should be no more then 3 inches below the top of the pipe. Given i have no experience with this set, I will need to rely on those out there with experience who can actually be of help.


I have seen Zagger do this demo several times. You are correct, only a couple inches sticks out of the ground, and the pipe is not meant to be a visual attractor, it is hidden in a tuft of grass. Do your own test just like I told you and make your own decision. Drop a lit cigarette butt inside a pipe with a hole and one without a hole and observe how the smoke dissipates out of each of them. You will definitely notice a difference. The hole acts just like the draft on a wood stove.

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