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Re: New Duke 550-OS Pro Series
[Re: Coon Duke]
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03/29/19 01:48 PM
03/29/19 01:48 PM
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potter co. p.a.
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you should quit while you are ahead Beav.,better places to joke and take silly shots than this thread right now.
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Re: New Duke 550-OS Pro Series
[Re: Coon Duke]
#6504530
03/29/19 02:02 PM
03/29/19 02:02 PM
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North Carolina
DaYooper14
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email sent to Bill & TA just now, will post if response received:
"1:59 PM (1 minute ago)
to bduke, tduke
I whole-heartedly understand competition and the need to break into new silos/product streams to accurately compete and gain and/or maintain market share. I'm not entirely sure I understand the blatant copy/paste of this new trap while taking the naming convention at the same time. I was hoping you might be able to expand my understanding of the decision or design before I make a call on continuing to support Duke with future trapping purchases."
-- It seems all of Greece knows what is the right thing to do, but it is only the Spartans that do anything about it. --
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Re: New Duke 550-OS Pro Series
[Re: Tim Caven]
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03/29/19 02:07 PM
03/29/19 02:07 PM
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Southern Michigan
trappergbus
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Thank you to our friends and customers that have had our back. One of my main issues with the Duke 550 and one that I haven't seen addressed in this thread is the fact that Minnesota Trapline Products has been one of the largest dealers of Duke traps since day 1. Literally millions of dollars worth of Duke traps have crossed our packing tables over the years. In my opinion we represented the Duke Brand well for decades and got a knife in the back for our trouble. Forgetting everything else, this in itself to me is inexcusable, immoral, and a slap in the face.
No, Minnesota Trapline Products won't be stocking the Duke 550 as some have suggested. In fact being we mean so little to the Duke Company we will closing out all Duke traps and products over the spring and summer. Thanks again to our friends and customers who are supporting us in this. Tim Caven You're welcome!
Common sense catches alot of fur..
Pay homage to all you harvest..
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Re: New Duke 550-OS Pro Series
[Re: Coon Duke]
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03/29/19 02:10 PM
03/29/19 02:10 PM
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Bland Virginia
2 TRAPS
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Wow i.havent been on in min. But man this has got good.
HMC Mfg.
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Re: New Duke 550-OS Pro Series
[Re: Coon Duke]
#6504542
03/29/19 02:21 PM
03/29/19 02:21 PM
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PA Venango Co.
Ron Marsh
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Tim Claven and MB has stood behind me when a copy cat hit me. I will stand with Tim on the 550. I
Duke has. Need bought from me.
PTA Lifetime #131N. Salvation Army CSM
Stakes: Why leave them?
ALWAYS John 3:16 814-516-2923
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Re: New Duke 550-OS Pro Series
[Re: The Beav]
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03/29/19 02:44 PM
03/29/19 02:44 PM
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Manitoba
Northof50
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OK OK
but I hope by me buying Duke 550s doesn't effect his job status. At what point don't you get Beav....say it takes 2 hours to assemble a dozen traps with American steel. that's 2 hours of taxes paid in USA on his labour, and the guy in the foundry his wages. Who is going to pay for your Old Age Security if nobody is working to pay taxes.
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Re: New Duke 550-OS Pro Series
[Re: Tim Caven]
#6504561
03/29/19 02:58 PM
03/29/19 02:58 PM
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Southern Virginia, 50 yr old
VaBeagler
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Thank you to our friends and customers that have had our back. One of my main issues with the Duke 550 and one that I haven't seen addressed in this thread is the fact that Minnesota Trapline Products has been one of the largest dealers of Duke traps since day 1. Literally millions of dollars worth of Duke traps have crossed our packing tables over the years. In my opinion we represented the Duke Brand well for decades and got a knife in the back for our trouble. Forgetting everything else, this in itself to me is inexcusable, immoral, and a slap in the face.
No, Minnesota Trapline Products won't be stocking the Duke 550 as some have suggested. In fact being we mean so little to the Duke Company we will closing out all Duke traps and products over the spring and summer. Thanks again to our friends and customers who are supporting us in this. Tim Caven I own 5 dozen 550's and 3 dozen 450's. All purchased new from MTP. Nothing but great service from the traps and the customer service. They will always have my business.
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Re: New Duke 550-OS Pro Series
[Re: DaYooper14]
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03/29/19 03:05 PM
03/29/19 03:05 PM
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Posts: 913
North Carolina
DaYooper14
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North Carolina
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email sent to Bill & TA just now, will post if response received:
"1:59 PM (1 minute ago)
to bduke, tduke
I whole-heartedly understand competition and the need to break into new silos/product streams to accurately compete and gain and/or maintain market share. I'm not entirely sure I understand the blatant copy/paste of this new trap while taking the naming convention at the same time. I was hoping you might be able to expand my understanding of the decision or design before I make a call on continuing to support Duke with future trapping purchases."
Response from Bill, I issue no opinion one way or the other on it: Bill Duke
2:55 PM (7 minutes ago)
to me
Brent,
I am glad you asked about this topic as there is a lot of misunderstanding from the general trapping public.
First, it is not unusual or illegal for companies developing new products to use the best available features in their new products.
I could give you numerous examples of this throughout the history of trap manufacturing.
Second, competition is good for the trapping public. Think about all the trappers who have access to high quality equipment today.
Some trappers like higher end traps and some trappers are budget minded. But all trappers have a choice in the equipment they use. We respect that choice.
We have built our business supplying trappers with reasonably priced equipment and supporting future trappers so the tradition continues.
The new Duke Pro Series 550 OS has huge support from trappers and dealers who are looking for alternatives to higher priced traps.
The responsible course is to keep an open mind to the product and evaluate it for yourself. We think you will be pleased when it becomes available.
Bill DukeMy response: Thank you for the response Bill. Before I make further judgement as you have a few salient points - while you respect the choice of trappers to have varying degrees of price points, I'm curious to see if you respected the trapper who designed those features mimicked and worked out a side deal for a portion of the design, etc? Just trying to find the angle where I continue to support Duke on this as it seems a line was crossed. Albeit not an illegal or unusual one, just an uncomfortable one. Thanks again for your response. Respect the heck out of what you have built company wise but this one is tough swallowing so far.
Last edited by DaYooper14; 03/29/19 03:12 PM.
-- It seems all of Greece knows what is the right thing to do, but it is only the Spartans that do anything about it. --
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Re: New Duke 550-OS Pro Series
[Re: Coon Duke]
#6504570
03/29/19 03:10 PM
03/29/19 03:10 PM
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east central WI
k snow
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Doesn't really address the naming convention at all, oh well.
Last edited by k snow; 03/29/19 03:11 PM.
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Re: New Duke 550-OS Pro Series
[Re: Coon Duke]
#6504578
03/29/19 03:24 PM
03/29/19 03:24 PM
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Because I love a good practical joke, and considering the time of year, something in the back of my mind keeps whispering that this might be one of the greatest April Fool's day jokes ever. I am waiting until midnight on Monday to make any comment. I don't really know anyone involved, and have only spoken to Mr. Caven briefly at a handful of conventions over the years, but anyone who has been shot with a shotgun and maintains his sense of humor enough to call himself an official field tester for that shotgun shell is perfectly capable of this kind of EPIC April Fools day joke. I really, really hope my gut is right.
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Re: New Duke 550-OS Pro Series
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#6504584
03/29/19 03:29 PM
03/29/19 03:29 PM
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East of the Mason-Dixon Line
DelawareRob
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Because I love a good practical joke, and considering the time of year, something in the back of my mind keeps whispering that this might be one of the greatest April Fool's day jokes ever. I am waiting until midnight on Monday to make any comment. I don't really know anyone involved, and have only spoken to Mr. Caven briefly at a handful of conventions over the years, but anyone who has been shot with a shotgun and maintains his sense of humor enough to call himself an official field tester for that shotgun shell is perfectly capable of this kind of EPIC April Fools day joke. I really, really hope my gut is right. That would be EPIC.... but, shh.... keep it under your hat. 
Who is John Galt?
You don't rise to the occasion, you fall to the level of your training.
Semper Paratus
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Re: New Duke 550-OS Pro Series
[Re: Mike in A-town]
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03/29/19 03:34 PM
03/29/19 03:34 PM
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Posts: 16,951
OH
Catch22
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One quick question...
Can you quickly and easily get replacement parts for both brands?
Mike I've not seen where anyone carries Duke replacement parts, other than pans and maybe dogs. I'm sure you could use Victor parts though, they're twinkies.....
I wonder if tap dancers walk into a room, look at the floor, and think, I'd tap that. I wonder about things.....
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Re: New Duke 550-OS Pro Series
[Re: Catch22]
#6504592
03/29/19 03:35 PM
03/29/19 03:35 PM
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Posts: 1,174
Middle Tennessee
TNcat
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One quick question...
Can you quickly and easily get replacement parts for both brands?
Mike I've not seen where anyone carries Duke replacement parts, other than pans and maybe dogs. I'm sure you could use Victor parts though, they're twinkies..... One quick question...
Can you quickly and easily get replacement parts for both brands?
Mike I've not seen where anyone carries Duke replacement parts, other than pans and maybe dogs. I'm sure you could use Victor parts though, they're twinkies..... F&T carries Duke parts
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