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06/29/19 06:58 AM
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joepennanti Offline OP
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Re: Alaskans wanna comment on crime in the Bush? [Re: joepennanti] #6564809
06/29/19 03:38 PM
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Re: Alaskans wanna comment on crime in the Bush? [Re: joepennanti] #6565402
06/30/19 12:59 PM
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Joe, I think you need to go up there and live for a while, so you can personally get a handle on the situation .


"Those who hammer their guns into plowshares will plow for those who do not."
Re: Alaskans wanna comment on crime in the Bush? [Re: joepennanti] #6565871
07/01/19 08:51 AM
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Alcohol & welfare


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Re: Alaskans wanna comment on crime in the Bush? [Re: joepennanti] #6566365
07/02/19 03:13 AM
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Lets comment on the crime in New York instead, Its much more interesting. You all have gang bangers, car jackings, armed robbery, ANTIFA, an opioid crises, crap on the streets, homeless, Gay Pride marches, oh and I am sure you have alcoholics as well. We dont have any of that other cool stuff here in bush Alaska.

We have problems with Alcohol , just like any other place do. Most bush villages outlaw the sale, so they are trying to get a handle on it (unlike New York)

As far as police protection. We should have public safety just like any other town in the US. Some folks don't realize that a lot of valuable resources like, fish, timber, minerals, gold, oil and gas.ALL come of out of bush Alaska. And with oil alone, the US government gets 60% of the revenue. That supports the welfare of Anchorage, Fairbanks, and yes ,even New York City, and then some.

The news source in your link is a Liberal Washington Post Rag. owned by the globalist that hate America, and wants all us Rural Americans to move to the cities to better control us.

No thanks.

Re: Alaskans wanna comment on crime in the Bush? [Re: joepennanti] #6566466
07/02/19 09:28 AM
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Great post Jeff.


"Those who hammer their guns into plowshares will plow for those who do not."
Re: Alaskans wanna comment on crime in the Bush? [Re: joepennanti] #6566475
07/02/19 09:52 AM
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Preach it Jeff!

Re: Alaskans wanna comment on crime in the Bush? [Re: joepennanti] #6566729
07/02/19 05:37 PM
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Huh. A dose of honesty and truth and he melts. Go figure.


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Re: Alaskans wanna comment on crime in the Bush? [Re: joepennanti] #6566749
07/02/19 06:18 PM
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Far from being a snow flake, lol.

I'm not real nosy about what goes on in other locales. I haven't had a drink in more than 20 years, and I have my own way of handling drunken abusers that doesn't include LEs, lol.


"Those who hammer their guns into plowshares will plow for those who do not."
Re: Alaskans wanna comment on crime in the Bush? [Re: joepennanti] #6566839
07/02/19 08:31 PM
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Well, he actually DIDN'T want to know what we thought, now did he?


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Re: Alaskans wanna comment on crime in the Bush? [Re: joepennanti] #6567301
07/03/19 03:43 PM
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Good post Jeff hard to imagine you and Pete as snowflakes it actually made me laugh . Another typical I donít live there but I know how it is in Alaska post. Joepennanti So you know Pete has more balls than most when it comes to speaking up for the trappers in Alaska and has probably done as much or more than any one person oh ya he doesnít live in the bush either anyway saw this at the beginning and wondered how far it would go before it got shut down by someone willing to respond thanks Jeff

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Re: Alaskans wanna comment on crime in the Bush? [Re: joepennanti] #6567364
07/03/19 05:39 PM
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I've preached all around the world, in every state but California, Maine, and Hawaii, individual people everywhere have the same body, soul, and spirit, the same emotions, the same conscience, the ability to choose between right and wrong. The drunks at the bar I grew up next to Florida were just as likely to murder and rape as the drunks in bush villages in Alaska.The ability to sin is everywhere, but so is the ability to repent (Turn from.), ask forgiveness, and then do right. Others should be willing to forgive, and except in the case of a sin unto death, (Murder, rape.) allow the individual who is willing to do different to move on with their life. I do not conceal carry in bush villages, but I do in Anchorage and Fairbanks, where people have tried to rob me and my family several times. In the Lower 48, I conceal carry where it is legal for me to do so, as I feel much more uncomfortable traveling between big cities to preach than I do in bush villages. If believing in God, voting for Trump, having guns, being an outdoorsman, trying to live a moral life, admitting when I am wrong, asking forgiveness and getting up and dusting myself off and going on when I do fall makes me a snowflake, so be it.


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Re: Alaskans wanna comment on crime in the Bush? [Re: joepennanti] #6567759
07/04/19 09:15 AM
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I think maybe some are missing the point of the article. It isn't saying that 'crime' is any different in rural Alaska than it is elsewhere. They are pointing out the response time ..or lack of response to the crime.

I recall in 1980 I had a bunch of stuff stolen. I managed to raise the troopers on an old HF radio. Three MONTHS later 3 troopers showed up. In the meantime I had dealt with the problem myself.

Slow or no response and an almost complete lack of real consequences is, IMO, the real problem with recidivism. It isn't the root cause of the crime, but it sure adds to it IMO.


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Re: Alaskans wanna comment on crime in the Bush? [Re: joepennanti] #6568175
07/04/19 09:35 PM
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I appreciate Otterman's kind words...

I must admit, that is the first time I have been called a "snowflake!" Ever...

Like AV said, if you ask for opinions, why would you be upset when those you queried actually did what you asked and gave you the benefit of their opinions? Especially opinions based on EXPERIENCE (not to mention, in my case, the wisdom of age!)

Pete

Re: Alaskans wanna comment on crime in the Bush? [Re: white17] #6568538
07/05/19 05:31 PM
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Originally Posted by white17
In the meantime I had dealt with the problem myself.



That sounds like a story I want to hear! smile

Re: Alaskans wanna comment on crime in the Bush? [Re: Pete in Frbks] #6568541
07/05/19 05:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Pete in Frbks
I appreciate Otterman's kind words...

I must admit, that is the first time I have been called a "snowflake!" Ever...

Like AV said, if you ask for opinions, why would you be upset when those you queried actually did what you asked and gave you the benefit of their opinions? Especially opinions based on EXPERIENCE (not to mention, in my case, the wisdom of age!)

Pete


Maybe the same smart donkey that doctored my handle can turn your name white and put "Snowflake" as your tittle, lol!

Re: Alaskans wanna comment on crime in the Bush? [Re: joepennanti] #6568555
07/05/19 05:56 PM
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Attention. Take a look at a map. A lot more to New York than cities. I know. Not looking to p people off but facts are facts. We all benefit if we think with our heads and not our stomachs and heart.

Re: Alaskans wanna comment on crime in the Bush? [Re: smalltimetrapper] #6568649
07/05/19 08:41 PM
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Originally Posted by smalltimetrapper
Originally Posted by white17
In the meantime I had dealt with the problem myself.



That sounds like a story I want to hear! smile



Suffice to say I never had a problem with that bunch again whistle


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Re: Alaskans wanna comment on crime in the Bush? [Re: joepennanti] #6568660
07/05/19 08:51 PM
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grin I would have paid to see that ..... wink

Re: Alaskans wanna comment on crime in the Bush? [Re: joepennanti] #6569202
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Most all cities in the lower 48 have a police force or at least a county sherriff and deputies. They have that because they have a tax base of property owners and working stiffs, as well as a few businesses to TAX! Tax money provides for policing.
Rural Alaska does not have any of that for the most part. At least they don't have enough to support police. Lack of police is definately part of the problem.
There are other differences in rural Alaska than the lower 48 as well, I think.
More policing may help, but I think there are attitudes and ideas in rural Alaska that must change before real change will come.
mt

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