For the life of me im having troubles visualizing how the dog knot system works. I cant see how that small lump is going to hold a yote! Or is the long chain the key to it all similar to portable pockets? I had a coyote hound that could pump a 24" rebar stake on 20' of chain! It was constantly jumping getting a wave action in the chain.i'd love to find a easier alternative to cable stakes for mid season relocation! Im wore slick after pulling 100 wolf fang anchors

Cross stakes.

I have hard ground. I can get away with single stakes (on short chains even). I know a lot of ground you can’t.

I had always wanted a Dog Knot stake to have in my collection. This last year one of my coyote trapping buddies from out West sent me one! So cool.

In Tom Krause's books he talked in one section about how to produce a make shift dog knot stake. He claimed it worked pretty well.

Mac

Question is that whole stake drove in? Dragging chain down in the dirt as you drive it in? I trap mainly crop fields I can see that working if I have it pictured correctly. That set up shouldn't be hard to replicate. I see it failing misserabley in sandy conditions but hard clay it should hold tight!

Tony that cold shut and washers are just sitting there, they will slide to the top once you pound in the stake . I personally wouldn’t try the single stake without the long chain. I’m also wondering if the cold shut or something similar is better than a crunch proof type swivel to keep from getting the ratcheting affect that you can get from the crunch proof.

I'm thinking a chestnut ring would be a great option to the cold shut. They wouldn't grab the stake like a swivel would. You could attach your trap swivel with a second J hook and keep good swiveling.

on portable pockets I use 5/8 smooth rod and 1" flat washers with a hole drilled in the washer to attach a j hook. Thanks don I thought those washers was floating. Now I don't understand why not just use re bar with the top few inchs smoothed down to help prevent pumping. I cant see that little knot creating enough friction to stop a determind yote

Until now I’ve used 5/8” smooth rod also but last year I came across a hundred 1/2” rebar 20” to 24” long and decided to try a dozen this year . I started using pogo’s the year the FTA was in Illinois and have been using a Wolf fang since they came out. I don’t use more than a dozen and a half a year right now , but once I retire I don’t plan to pull a hundred cables a year . Stakes will be the way to go unless I’m in a likely area for theft .

Tony, The whole stake gets driven in but the cold shut slides up and down the stake so when it is driven in it is up at the top like a regular stake. I cut the two washers off mine and welded a large washer at the top so I could use the chestnut rings like ADC says. I do not keep them attached to my traps but a lot of guys do. Either way works fine.

Your guys god must be more powerful then mine Id never trust a single stake ! I've had coons runoff with dps from single stakesi got a bucket full of those R.R 16" giant lag bolts and welded a 2" helical on them as coon stakes. Should of went 4" then I believe they would be perminent

1/2 inch pipe cut in 1/2/ peaces.
slide over 1/2 rebar up 5 inchs weld in place
Thats what I make

Think of it like a shallow disposable that you forgot to tug on to engage it horizontally. In sandy soils the dog knot performs a similar function, except that it (the knot) requires the catch to engage it through long chains that pump the stake while at the same time compacting the soil as it reaches a certain point for the knot to perform the same horizontal function as an engaged disposable stake. In fact, it's the same principle but the right soil conditions are needed for it to be effective in the same way.

Rebar as a single stake doesn't have that same advantages because there's nothing to grab the soil in the same way. However, above the ground it has too much to grab, which is why the smooth rod is an advantage. You want the chestnut or lap link to be at ground level keeping the angle of attack or pull at 90 degrees to the ground so the knot can do its work.

After you drive a dog knot of any kind make sure you cave in the dirt around the stake

How you been you old New Mexican ? That sounds like a pretty easy way to make them Wayne, thanks .

I believe Wayne's method is similar to JC Conner's ...just a welded lug of metal to create more ground contact...makes it more difficult to pull.

THAT is how my customers have had me make them

This brings up another question, ADC did you ever find an easy way to put a point on rebar stakes ?

Has anybody did like I'm sure they did in the day by drawing a point out by using a forge or a torch hammering the point out???

Goof ball we are good here buddy
Trip hammer is how they were pointed