Re: State Electrical Inspector......ARGH
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I don't see how they can make you wire it for electric heat Gary. Allot of extra expense you won't use.
When I built my garage, I wired one wall with outlets and then had them hook me up so I had power to complete the building. They only checked that day and were never back. Doubt he meant he HAD to wire it for electrical heat, but instead just that he had to put a 200 amp breaker box since it was going to by considered a "living" quarters. Sometimes people get too old or crippled up to use wood/ pellet stoves. Then the heat can be added IF the service can handle it. You guys do realize that 220 circuits can be gotten off of any electric panel that is 208 / 120 coming into a house. The double pole breaker makes that possible. So if he has 2 extra breakers in his box he has 220 heat circuit as long as the main is big enough for all that is in that. Asking for 220 is not the end of the world. LOL Heck any 100 amp barn panel that only uses 2breakers for lights and 2 breakers for plugs is wired for 220 heat source
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Re: State Electrical Inspector......ARGH
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I don't see how they can make you wire it for electric heat Gary. Allot of extra expense you won't use.
When I built my garage, I wired one wall with outlets and then had them hook me up so I had power to complete the building. They only checked that day and were never back. Not really , As long as his panel has enough amps available and he has an empty spot for a double pole breaker
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Re: State Electrical Inspector......ARGH
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09/21/19 04:07 PM
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I think the craziest thing in this thread is that people still refer to 240v as 220v. Europe has 220v, the US has 240v. Here it is actually 248v, and 124v. Referring to American power outlets as 110v or 220v is pretty dated. Does this make me an electrical grammar Nazi?
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Re: State Electrical Inspector......ARGH
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I think the craziest thing in this thread is that people still refer to 240v as 220v. Europe has 220v, the US has 240v. Here it is actually 248v, and 124v. Referring to American power outlets as 110v or 220v is pretty dated. Does this make me an electrical grammar Nazi?
Maybe were you are but around here 108 volts / 215 is about all you can read if you put a tester to it. You do realize the numbers are the rating not actual voltage don't you ? Bet a 180v wild leg would really have you scratching your head !!! LOL
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Re: State Electrical Inspector......ARGH
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09/21/19 04:41 PM
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I think the craziest thing in this thread is that people still refer to 240v as 220v. Referring to American power outlets as 110v or 220v is pretty dated. Around here we run closer to 125/250. But, the power supplier refers to their supply as 110/220.
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Re: State Electrical Inspector......ARGH
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You guys do realize that 220 circuits can be gotten off of any electric panel that is 208 / 120 coming into a house. The double pole breaker makes that possible.
If you have a 208/120 panel, a double pole breaker is going to give you 208, not 220. A single pole breaker will give you 120, but a 2 pole breaker will give you 208
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Re: State Electrical Inspector......ARGH
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09/21/19 05:02 PM
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Bet a 180v wild leg would really have you scratching your head !!! LOL [/quote]
Yes, actually it would. I'll have to read up on that. Thanks!
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Re: State Electrical Inspector......ARGH
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You are only going to get a wild leg in Delta, "Y" has no wild leg.
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Re: State Electrical Inspector......ARGH
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Does the National Electric Code not apply to some states? Asking for a friend. I imagine there still are some places that have no building codes. It would take one heck of a search to find out what counties, in which states, did not have building codes, but I bet there are some.
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Re: State Electrical Inspector......ARGH
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I believe any state codes override the NEC. I recommend checking with your state.
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Re: State Electrical Inspector......ARGH
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My wiring book (not the NEC code book, but a book about wiring based on the 2017-2020 NEC) says that all kitchen small appliance circuits have to be GFCI, and there has to be 2 20amp small appliance circuits. Seems to me the easiest thing to do would be to wire them up using regular outlets and GFCI breakers, and not worry about what exact locations have to be GFCI. Better safe than sorry. Yes. But every outlet in the house has to be tamper resistant as well.
Life ain't supposed to be easy.
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