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Re: Corona mess over hyped [Re: jbyrd63] #6812725
03/22/20 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted by jbyrd63
Originally Posted by Marty
Diabetes and heart attacks are not contagious..... smile



Thanks for the update Marty I thought you caught them from reeses cups. LOL

But my point is not to cower in our houses thinking the angel of death is walking the streets looking for a law breaker who happened to go out. The media and politicians are election medelling 101 !!!!


Yes, this could be anything......from pure happenstance to a plan for the top 1% to take over the globe. If we live thru it I guess we can see what develops. If we die then we will never know.
Personally, I am just going to keep it simple and listen to what the POTUS asks me to do while paying attention to what is going on around me and around the world. Once something like this gets in motion no one knows where it will all end up, that goes for the virus and the measures to counter the virus. If the internet, grid and/or comms go down then we know we are in trouble.


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Re: Corona mess over hyped [Re: Ghost14] #6812749
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Originally Posted by Ghost14
So who should people believe? I believe what I witness and the numbers I see. My wife is a Doctor and owns her own practice. We aren’t real concerned about the virus. None of the information she receives from big brother would lead us to be. I don’t know where some of these people get their “facts” that I know are just repeated nonsense. Use common sense people, don’t risk spreading this because people with compromised immune systems do not need to come in contact. Just like seasonal Flu which as of right now has killed far more this year than this virus is on pace to kill. As of yesterday this virus had killed enough people globally to make up .09% of the U.S. population. Some places it has run its course and is exponentially falling off in infection rates. The death toll globally was still under what seasonal flu kills in the U.S. alone. Dr. Fauci says the mortality rate is close to 1% when all said and done. When they finally have enough tests and can start research instead of herding the sheep!

Please stop fueling this hysteria fire!



Notice how everyone ignores facts and continues on with the hysteria?

Re: Corona mess over hyped [Re: hippie] #6812754
03/22/20 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by hippie
Originally Posted by Ghost14
So who should people believe? I believe what I witness and the numbers I see. My wife is a Doctor and owns her own practice. We aren’t real concerned about the virus. None of the information she receives from big brother would lead us to be. I don’t know where some of these people get their “facts” that I know are just repeated nonsense. Use common sense people, don’t risk spreading this because people with compromised immune systems do not need to come in contact. Just like seasonal Flu which as of right now has killed far more this year than this virus is on pace to kill. As of yesterday this virus had killed enough people globally to make up .09% of the U.S. population. Some places it has run its course and is exponentially falling off in infection rates. The death toll globally was still under what seasonal flu kills in the U.S. alone. Dr. Fauci says the mortality rate is close to 1% when all said and done. When they finally have enough tests and can start research instead of herding the sheep!

Please stop fueling this hysteria fire!



Notice how everyone ignores facts and continues on with the hysteria?



There are a whole slew of docs at Mayo that would disagree with the above statement. And I would argue there isn't an institution in the US that is putting more research/time and people on Covid 19 right now.

I/m in no way putting down someone who Is a doc who has their own "practice" but if any of you have seen the size and output Of Mayo (63,000 employees....4500 doctors and countless researchers) there isn't much comparison.

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Re: Corona mess over hyped [Re: jbyrd63] #6812757
03/22/20 11:58 AM
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Wish I had more time to trap....
Re: Corona mess over hyped [Re: jbyrd63] #6812761
03/22/20 12:01 PM
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https://m.facebook.com/story.php?st...00000960500227?sfnsn=mo&d=n&vh=i
Funny video, hope it plays for you. If that don't work Google Virus,,,,,Baby on you tube. Tried to attach that link but no go for me.


Wish I had more time to trap....
Re: Corona mess over hyped [Re: Calvin] #6812780
03/22/20 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Calvin
The title of this thread is Corona over hyped. I guess we'll see who is right and who eats crow in a couple weeks. I know I have changed my mind in the last two weeks.

If you live under a rock in the middle of no where you probably have time and space to conjure up whatever conspiracy theory you can dream up, but for those who live in congested areas who have loved ones that are in that "compromised" bracket, things seems a little more real and concerning.

Kind of like when they have wolf meetings in Bloomington, MN. No wolves in Bloomington, MN so those folks don't have a clue what's really happening where there are wolves.

My Girlfriend works for Mayo and keeps up on it from inside. The docs who are working on it down there are plenty worried (good enough for me) and have canceled their vacations into August now. But I suppose they are part of the big conspiracy, too. dunno.

Personally whenever someone cries govt conspiracy, I hear the same thing as when people cry racism today. All I hear is I have nothing factual to base anything on so I'll scream one of the two. Nobody takes anyone who cries either seriously and we think you're nuts.

And no I don't trust our govt...However, I have worked for the govt for 22 years now and am fully aware something like this virus is far far past what the govt is capable of thinking up and implementing.

We are now seeing real people we know getting it. Stay tuned. I hope the experts are wrong (as I thought a couple weeks ago).

The Best So far!!!! Excellent take on it!!!!


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Re: Corona mess over hyped [Re: 330-Trapper] #6812840
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Originally Posted by 330-Trapper
Originally Posted by Calvin
The title of this thread is Corona over hyped. I guess we'll see who is right and who eats crow in a couple weeks. I know I have changed my mind in the last two weeks.

If you live under a rock in the middle of no where you probably have time and space to conjure up whatever conspiracy theory you can dream up, but for those who live in congested areas who have loved ones that are in that "compromised" bracket, things seems a little more real and concerning.

Kind of like when they have wolf meetings in Bloomington, MN. No wolves in Bloomington, MN so those folks don't have a clue what's really happening where there are wolves.

My Girlfriend works for Mayo and keeps up on it from inside. The docs who are working on it down there are plenty worried (good enough for me) and have canceled their vacations into August now. But I suppose they are part of the big conspiracy, too. dunno.

Personally whenever someone cries govt conspiracy, I hear the same thing as when people cry racism today. All I hear is I have nothing factual to base anything on so I'll scream one of the two. Nobody takes anyone who cries either seriously and we think you're nuts.

And no I don't trust our govt...However, I have worked for the govt for 22 years now and am fully aware something like this virus is far far past what the govt is capable of thinking up and implementing.

We are now seeing real people we know getting it. Stay tuned. I hope the experts are wrong (as I thought a couple weeks ago).

The Best So far!!!! Excellent take on it!!!!


Do you think we should act this way every winter when the flu is killing 100x the people this is?

Re: Corona mess over hyped [Re: jbyrd63] #6812856
03/22/20 01:12 PM
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No health insurance here for quite awhile, I hope dont catch it, I be pretty low on totem pole for Heath care, someone told me that expect them to flood local hospitals with chicago patients from less 200 miles from here, maybe they take in all ones there in chicago area, that dont have insurance, street ppl, ones released from jail, save there criminal lives, they come from Chicago all time here. Easy pickings, more welfare. Programs, free stuff an jobs if they wanna work than chicago offers

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Re: Corona mess over hyped [Re: jbyrd63] #6812862
03/22/20 01:14 PM
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Putin created it to interfere with the US election.Its true,just look at the timing.


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Re: Corona mess over hyped [Re: jbyrd63] #6812863
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China!

Mad at Trump for slapping tariffs on their junk.

Re: Corona mess over hyped [Re: jbyrd63] #6812871
03/22/20 01:21 PM
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The numbers being given to us don't correlate to the fatality rate they are telling us. 318662 confirmed cases 13672 deaths = 4.3% fatality, most of the cases just happened in the last few days and are certain to become fatalities so that number is going to go up. 3 months to reach 100000 cases, 12 days to go from 100000 to 200000. Really is time to take this seriously, stay safe.

https://www.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1103046/new-coronavirus-covid19-cases-number-worldwide-by-day/

https://www.who.int/docs/default-so...sitrep-61-covid-19.pdf?sfvrsn=6aa18912_2

Re: Corona mess over hyped [Re: Useless Eater] #6812885
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Originally Posted by Useless Eater
The numbers being given to us don't correlate to the fatality rate they are telling us. 318662 confirmed cases 13672 deaths = 4.3% fatality, most of the cases just happened in the last few days and are certain to become fatalities so that number is going to go up. 3 months to reach 100000 cases, 12 days to go from 100000 to 200000. Really is time to take this seriously, stay safe.

https://www.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1103046/new-coronavirus-covid19-cases-number-worldwide-by-day/

https://www.who.int/docs/default-so...sitrep-61-covid-19.pdf?sfvrsn=6aa18912_2




Yet there are still people saying “This is so stupid. The coronavirus is just a common cold—that’s it.”

If I had a trillion dollars every time entire nations were locked down due to common colds....

Re: Corona mess over hyped [Re: jbyrd63] #6812887
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Its nothing-thats why it is dominating the conversation everywhere even on a trapping forum.


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Re: Corona mess over hyped [Re: jbyrd63] #6812897
03/22/20 01:42 PM
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But my point is not to cower in our houses thinking the angel of death is walking the streets looking for a law breaker who happened to go out.


The "cower in our houses" instruction is intended more to keep us from infecting others than to protecting ourselves. I guess the dumb framers of that instruction think we can transmit the virus before we are sick enough to know we have it.

Re: Corona mess over hyped [Re: Aix sponsa] #6812898
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Originally Posted by Aix sponsa
Originally Posted by Useless Eater
The numbers being given to us don't correlate to the fatality rate they are telling us. 318662 confirmed cases 13672 deaths = 4.3% fatality, most of the cases just happened in the last few days and are certain to become fatalities so that number is going to go up. 3 months to reach 100000 cases, 12 days to go from 100000 to 200000. Really is time to take this seriously, stay safe.

https://www.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1103046/new-coronavirus-covid19-cases-number-worldwide-by-day/

https://www.who.int/docs/default-so...sitrep-61-covid-19.pdf?sfvrsn=6aa18912_2




Yet there are still people saying “This is so stupid. The coronavirus is just a common cold—that’s it.”

If I had a trillion dollars every time entire nations were locked down due to common colds....



Do either of yuns have an opinion to my question?

Do you think we should shut things down every flu season? Facts are, tens of thousands of Americans and hundreds of thousands world-wide die every winter from it, so would you be behind this every fall/wnter?

Re: Corona mess over hyped [Re: Furvor] #6812901
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Originally Posted by Furvor
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But my point is not to cower in our houses thinking the angel of death is walking the streets looking for a law breaker who happened to go out.


The "cower in our houses" instruction is intended more to keep us from infecting others than to protecting ourselves. I guess the dumb framers of that instruction think we can transmit the virus before we are sick enough to know we have it.



I read they are trying to slow the infection rate so the hospitols don't get overwhelmed.That they are just trying to buy time


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Re: Corona mess over hyped [Re: hippie] #6812938
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This is deadlier than flu, more contagious than flu and has a long incubation time for the infected to be contagious and show no symptoms and the flu has a vaccine. 70,000,000 to 150,000,000 are expected to get coronavirus in the US. 4.2% of 70,000,000 is 2,940,000 .5% of 70,000,000 is 350,000. If the numbers they are giving us are right things are going to get bleak.

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/11/up-...ronavirus-congressional-doctor-says.html

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Originally Posted by Useless Eater
This is deadlier than flu, more contagious than flu and has a long incubation time for the infected to be contagious and show no symptoms and the flu has a vaccine. 70,000,000 to 150,000,000 are expected to get coronavirus in the US. 4.2% of 70,000,000 is 2,940,000 .5% of 70,000,000 is 350,000. If the numbers they are giving us are right things are going to get bleak.

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/11/up-...ronavirus-congressional-doctor-says.html


That's on par with the flu, 7percent of those hospitalized with the flu died. Your numbers are based on the same since only those deathly I'll are being tested.

So, shut things down every year?

Re: Corona mess over hyped [Re: Steven 49er] #6812971
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Originally Posted by Steven 49er
Originally Posted by ApocalypticGoatH
I think the majority of the people commenting on the covid-19 pandemic should stick to their day jobs.


Enlighten us oh wise one.


I lack the qualifications to enlighten anyone on this subject especially the percentage of infection rate or death rate because of incomplete data.


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Re: Corona mess over hyped [Re: jbyrd63] #6812976
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I guess what health proffesional's are reporting is not valid data.


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