Re: Before I test, I need input from experienced peopl
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08/01/20 10:47 AM
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I'm fond of the elbow PVC sets in water but a straight one shoved into the bank at a slight upwards angle works great too. Never liked dry land trapping coons in footholds until DPs came out, but no doubt they work. This is my favorite picture of the elbow PVC set in action. There were 6 sets here, the two still standing didn't make a catch that night. We caught 15 the first 3 nights here before they slowed down but also ended up with a coyote in that set in the center of the creek and a large beaver in one along the edge here. Awesome picture!!
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Re: Before I test, I need input from experienced peopl
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08/01/20 04:53 PM
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Used to love pvc elbow sets, problem was they tended to end up missing in more public locations if you didn't paint em. Or coon would destroy or cause them to get lost. That's why theirs lots of opinions. I never lost a pipe and never had one chewed up either, they were always laying on the bottom just outside the coon's reach. I never painted any either, but I olny used them back on private ground. In public locations the smear sets are great for concealing your set,,, up until you catch the coon.
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Re: Before I test, I need input from experienced peopl
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08/01/20 05:09 PM
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So your baiting them and then putting the elbow In place?
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Re: Before I test, I need input from experienced peopl
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08/01/20 09:44 PM
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So your baiting them and then putting the elbow In place? I just scoop them into the container of bait like a spoon and poke them in the bottom of the creek, set the trap in place and turn the pipe towards the trap. Its as simple as that, no tricks or anything tough about it.
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Re: Before I test, I need input from experienced peopl
[Re: Teacher]
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08/09/20 05:39 PM
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Teacher, given the two options you talk about, salmon oil on grass vs chunks of fish in a pocket, I would go with the chunks of fish. A chunk of bait in a pocket give you a lot of eye appeal for your target animal, more so than salmon oil on a grass wad.
If you really want to test things, take 20 locations. At each location put 1 grass stick set with salmon oil and one pocket set with carp. On half the locations put the salmon oil set on your left hand side as you face the bank, and put the pocket set on the right hand side. Reverse this on the other half of your locations. See how they perform.
For what its worth, you could dig pockets and just put a trap in front without any bait or lure and do fairly well, just the fresh digging has an appeal to mink, rats and coon. If you are using a tile spade, you should be able to make a pocket set in a matter of a few seconds. I'm not a fan of hiding the bait when making a water set, I want the target animal to be able to see it in the back of the pocket.
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Re: Before I test, I need input from experienced peopl
[Re: Gerald Schmitt]
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08/09/20 06:45 PM
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Teacher, given the two options you talk about, salmon oil on grass vs chunks of fish in a pocket, I would go with the chunks of fish. A chunk of bait in a pocket give you a lot of eye appeal for your target animal, more so than salmon oil on a grass wad.
If you really want to test things, take 20 locations. At each location put 1 grass stick set with salmon oil and one pocket set with carp. On half the locations put the salmon oil set on your left hand side as you face the bank, and put the pocket set on the right hand side. Reverse this on the other half of your locations. See how they perform.
For what its worth, you could dig pockets and just put a trap in front without any bait or lure and do fairly well, just the fresh digging has an appeal to mink, rats and coon. If you are using a tile spade, you should be able to make a pocket set in a matter of a few seconds. I'm not a fan of hiding the bait when making a water set, I want the target animal to be able to see it in the back of the pocket. Spot on. I'll go so far as to add when you put your chunk of fish in the pocket give it a big squirt of salmon/fish oil in a rainbow over the pocket so it runs down and creates an "oil slick" on the water. IMO this draws coons and mink ,from down steam especially, to see where its coming from.
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