Well i have been back from Tularosa New Mexico for a few days. Had the pleasure of taking 3 days of trapping lessons from Mr James Lucero. All i can say is WOW! I was taught some true old time wolfer ways. That is exactly what I went to him for ! We went and made sets about 3 or 4 miles from his house, on BLM land. Also went on some private land. I got to see alot of his old stomping grounds! Also learned 6-7 trap set that are NOT in any of his books! I really like the bobcat sets he showed me, they are NOT in any books of EVER be shown anywhere. Mr Lucero is also plaining to write another book. Its will be gear toward = Cattle, Sheep, and hard to catch and spooky coyotes. Mr Lucero is also going to start giving afew lessons again! He will be charging 1000 dollars for 3 days . I can tell you that it is WELL worth the money! His phone number is = 1 575 585 6314 Please keep in mind Mr Lucero is 85 years old. So speak clearly on the phone. If anyone has any questions on = Where to stay? What to bring? or anything else feel free to PM me anytime.

That would be fun.

I know the man makes good lure for coyotes.

Yes sir he does do that

I would really like to meet him. Definitely would like to try his lures. His book doubled my catch at least.
If I could get free of my job I would do the personal instruction in a minute.

Wow, thanks for sharing. Taking instructions from him would be a hoot.
I learned a lot from his books. Used his lures back in the day with good success. Never realized until recently he was still selling some.
Again, thanks for sharing.

Mac

You (we) are the only ones that prevent those trips. And asking loved ones for "gifts cards" for birthday or Christmas or anniversary gifts, towards his tuition could help as well. I was surprised several yrs ago at how many "on the line' instructors offer a gift card/layaway system.
Putting in for Vac at work is also imperative. I finally had to tell my boss...."look, these offers only come certain times of the year, and i'm not getting any younger......"
When i was self employed i just had to schedule the work around my trips, to conventions or wherever.

As per request. Here is alittle more info. You can stay in Tularosa or Alamogordo NM . Alamogordo is about 13 miles from Mr Lucero's house. There is a Motel 6 that gives a discount on 3 days or more stay. Its 40 dollars a night. Good bed . Microwave and Mini Fridge There are more expensive motels near by. Food? With this Covid -19 drive threws onl open. But Walmart in Alamogordo is open . Must wear mask. IF you want to trap after you take lessons from James Lucero, their is Millions of acres of BLM land.

Steeltraps
Is it still possible to get his book and/or other products by phoning him directly?
Matt

You Betcha Matt!

Lucero’s JL#1, Coyotero, & Winter Wolf were my top three producers from a lineup of over 20 proven lures last season.


Here is the contact information and books he has available.

Master Wolfer

Snarlines Across The West

Thank you Tejas! I’ll be placing a call today!
Matt

I really enjoyed his book "Master Wolfer" and it made me rethink the actual placement of lure at a set. His idea of placing a small amount of "catch dirt" over the bait in a hole is very smart and is proven to catch wise canines.

I may have to look into his personal instruction myself.

You Betcha Matt!

Lucero’s JL#1, Coyotero, & Winter Wolf were my top three producers from a lineup of over 20 proven lures last season.
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Tejas,
I spoke with Mr Lucero last evening and sent him a check for the the 3 lures mentioned and the MW book. He was very pleasant to talk to, and very happy to chat, and obviously a wealth of information. I asked him in what type of sets he used each of the 3 lures, and I’m not sure he understood my question, as he kept answering “bobcat, coyote and fox” lol. Care to elaborate?
Matt

Matt. Sent you a PM

ST - Thanks for sharing. I met Mr. Lucero years ago- I forget which convention. He was great to talk to and took time to answer tons of questions. He gave a demo on coyotes. Thanks again.

I sent my order for all three lures today. I got his master wolfer book last year. I asked in my letter with enclosed check if he would sign it. He sent me a signed copy. About a week ago I got a hand addressed envelope with a flyer for his books and one for his lures. I sent the order, I like doing business like this. No calls, e-mails, or catalogs just send a letter with what you want and the money. Your goods will arrive promptly. He has great products and he is as honest as they come. It is a pleasure to do business with a man like him.

For those who have PM me about trapping in New Mexico on BLM land . Here you go, you will need. = Non Resident License = 345 dollars Habitat Stamp = 5 dolllars HMAV Stamp 5 dollars. You will also need to take and complete = online Trapper and Furbear Ed class. Its free . And even a dumb old guy like me can pass it. LOL! You can get a BLM map for you phone that tells you where YOU are and where BLM and other lands are, you can trap on here. Https;//www.blm.gov/New Mexico Hope this help answer some questions

Talked to a guy in Montana the other day. About alltuitude sickness. Thought it might be woth mentioning IF you come to Tularosa New Mexico. You might want to come a few days early to trap or take lessons. Alamogordo is 4400 ft and Carrizozo is 5500 ft and up the road CloudCroft is 8600 ft . So give this some thought if you are coming from sea level or 600 ft like I did. Took me a few days to get used to it

Sounds like a great place. One of my favorite places to camp is at 8,000 ft. I went for two days to Colorado in July and went to just at 12,000 feet. I got a little loopy and sure was out of breathe. Ha! My house is right at 580 feet so I can relate.

Got any pictures?

Larry, I have some picture, but not on computer at home. Give me about 15-20 mins and I will run up road and post a string of = Land Scape pics .

Few landscape pics

Few pics

Better pics. I have on SD card. From Nice Nikon zoom lense camera. Will get a SD card reader and down load them

We turkey hunting the LNF near Mayhill and it took a day or two to get acclimated. That doesn’t mean I still didn’t run out of breath though, lol. Coming from sea level sucks!!

Thanks for sharing the pictures.

Mac

Wow! That open terrain looks more than a bit daunting to an Eastern trapper! Where are all the brushy drainage ditches, fence rows, crop changes, and farm lanes??? Lol!

Wow awesome pictures, just one thing though. Can a coyote make a living in that landscape ?

Yes. Their are lots of quail , rabbit, and mice tracks out their. Follow the pray. And get off the road in the washes and terrian changes and my quess would be you will be OK

Talked to Mr Lucero today he is doing well. I am going to try to transfer some camera pics to phone to computer to day

Anyone know if Lucero is in Mirandas new "the master trappers" book?

Just ordered some of each of his lures and bought both of his books back in the summer

Thanksgiving Day Triple – First Night Catches – All Females



Flat Sets – Lucero’s JL#1 & Winter Wolf – Coyote/Cat urine

Great catch!!

Very cool!

Nice

Here’s a quad catch from Nov. 27th.

Good job on the coyotes Tejas. I am in West Texas now. At Motel 6. Will start setting traps tomorrow. Hope to post up lots of pics. Of coyotes caught with James Lucero Lure !

1 hr east of New Mexico. West Texas cattle country First night catch. With James Lucero's = Coyotero Lure And SMC urine

Very nice!
I love west texas country!

That’s a really cool picture, Chris. Is that the remnants of a JL dirt hole in the picture, or did he do that for you?
Matt

No. It was a Flat Set. With Coyotero and SMC urine. Dirt Hole want work out here. Just collapses To. Sandy and dry

Looks like I need to try some of Luceros lure. I’ll have to get in contact with him

Wind is howling at near 30 mph. Male. Flat Set Winter Wolf Lure And SMC urine

Hate to break it to ya, but you’re gonna need a bigger trap and truck for those black ones!

Great job ST. You can't catch the triples and quads if you don't set the traps

Yep. You are right. Only running about 24 traps on about 14 sections This makes 3 for the day On James Lucero's Lure. Male. Flat Set by a dead cow JL Lure. SMC urine.

Kind of mangy coyote. Flat Set. Coyotero lure and SMC urine

What is SMC urine?

Thanks
Mac

Single Male Coyote

His lures still $6 an oz. ?

Nother coyote. Flat Set. Coyotero. Single Male Coyote Urine. That 3 so far 2 day

Got 2 more All most a double. 1 was at water tank 1 over hill about 75 yards away. That makes 5 coyotes for today. Going to set traps till dark.

Both coyotes were in Flat Sets with Coyotero Lure 3 out of 5 were first night catches. Shame they are so mangy

The price of his lures are $15 for 2 oz and $25 for 4 oz . If you call to place an order you may need to give him a minute, I don’t think he could hear me until he switched phones .

Ok, thanks. I have a brochure from about 3-4 yrs ago listing those prices.

Where y’all get SMC urine ? Thanks

Caught 8 coyotes today. All in Flat Sets. All with James Lucero's lure. Coyotero is catching the most. But Winter Wolf And JL # 1 are doing well too. I have trapped in 4 states this year and I only use = Lucero's lures SMC urine And Wolf Urine from Ogorman

Few from today

Few more

Here is the typical flat Set I use

Kicking butt and taking names!!

Nice Work ST!

That's some good looking sand in those catch photos.

What things have you run up against that you weren’t expecting on the line out West Texas Way?

Tejas. Biggest think is the way the land can change on you in West Texas. I am about 1 hr from New Mexico. Lots of the land I am trapping on LOOKS like New Mexico

The ground goes from hard pan to dune type sand. In less than a mile. So I am carrying Saber Tooth drag and chain stakes

Tejas. Another thing that comes to mind Is the vast size of the Very open landscape I can trap on land that is as far as I can see in all 4 directions. Next year I may spend From = October to Feb. in West Texas working on catching coyotes for several different ranchers

Caught 7 coyotes today on James Lucero's Lure All in Flat Sets.

Few more coyotes and a road side mule deer

I have been real busy catching coyotes. So I haven't posted up any catches lately. But I will post up all I have taken pictures Today is my day 14 of West Texas line I have caught 71 coyotes using James Lucero Lure. The big 3. Coyotero JL #1 And Winter Wolf

I have been real busy catching coyotes. So I haven't posted up any catches lately. But I will post up all I have taken pictures Today is my day 14 of West Texas line I have caught 71 coyotes using James Lucero Lure. The big 3. Coyotero JL #1 And Winter Wolf

Few pics

More pics

More coyotes

So many coyotes and a donkey

So little time so many coyotes to catch

Coyotes

And more coyotes will post up the rest later

Very cool!

Killin it!!!!

Awesome job ! I realize your probably not trapping for the fur but what percentage of coyotes would you say are worth skinning ? Have you tried many dirt holes in that country ? I know James says dirt holes don’t work in his country .

I wish i could ride along

Golf ball. Dirt Holes don't work here either. To dry. The sand just fills in out of 70 Set I have 3 dirt holes. Those were under the = root ball of a piece of brush. Well. I am going to say about 40% mangy coyotes and another 10 % that low grade or thin So 77 coyotes maybe 30 good ones? So 30 x 15 dollars. That wouldn't hardly pay the 315 for a non resident fur bearing license. SO I do nuisance work and they go in the ditch

Come back with me Jan 4 th. I will do 30 more days. You can have all the fur we catch!!!! LoL!

Few I took picks of today. All Flat Sets. SMC urine and Lucero lure

If only i could

Got 7 more coyotes today with James Lucero's lures. Few pics

All caught on Flat Sets. And SMC urine or Wolf urine

For those who PM. I am only using MB 550s. Dipped with Formula 1. It is holding up well in West Texas sand. No ground freezing Here

Good to hear. Trying Formula 1 this year for the first time. In fact, I think I talked to you about it. Glad to see you having success!

Managed to get some traps in the dirt on my place today

Used some Lucero lure on 3 of them, JL#1, Coyotero and Winter Wolf

Has been a few weeks since I had traps out so curious to see how quick I can catch some coyotes

Been really busy. Things are winding down. Day 18 and I have caught 90 coyotes. Was hoping for 100 in 20 days. But I have to pick up line tomorrow and go home. Have lots to get done. Will return around Jan 5th or so for a 30 day job on a few properties that want coyotes gone

Will post some more pics later I am at laundromat now!!

Well I quess I am done in West Texas. 96 coyotes in 19 days I would stay longer but my daughter says I must come home for Christmas!

All coyotes I caught were on Flat Sets. All coyotes caught were on James Lucero's lures. I used Coyotero them most Then JL# 1 And Winter Wolf. Some were caught with SMC urine and Some with Wolf Urine

Few last pics for I load up truck for Home

Few more

Way to go. Ordered both his books and got them in the mail the other day.

Thanks Joey. I thing you will enjoy the books

Steeltraps,
Thanks for sharing all the pictures and information. Nice looking country out there.
Lots of hard work.

Mac

You may have posted this info and I just missed it but

1) How many traps were you running?
2) How much ground did you cover?
3) Did you ever recover all of your traps on drags?

Have a safe trip home

BTW I think 5 a day average is good

Sounds like a great trip to me. Have a safe trip home.

1 = About 80 traps was average sometimes more some times less . 2 = about 50000 acres total in 2 counties 3 = Heck no!! Lost 4 on drags Shot 1 running around WITH drag 3 days latter. Then had the cow eat the flagging that marked my trap locations . Lost 3 that way .SO all total i lost about 6 of my MB-550s

Thanks Wanna Be is was a great trip. But with any trapping job it had its highs and lows. I am home now 8 pm Drove 16 hrs strait threw only stopped to gas up!

Definitely one of the few post I've enjoyed reading

LT GREY. Glad you enjoyed it. Just got off phone with MR James Lucero about 10 mins ago. We were talking about a new set that will be going in his next book. I really hope he finishes his new book soon. I can't wait to read it!

Has anyone used Lucero's lures in the cold and wet of the north? I've noticed that some lures work better in some climates than others, but have never tried Lucero's lures.

I will buy it when it is available

Bearcat2. I have as most people know used Lucero's lures exclusively for past 4 years. Have averaged 300 plus coyotes a year And 406 coyotes last year. I can't tell you they will work in extreme cold. Because about 15 degrees is the coldest I have caught coyotes in. I'm a warm weather guy. BUT in rain these lures work!!!! Was on a coyote contract job for 14 days. It rain or was wet 12 of those days And still caught plenty of coyotes with James Lucero's lure

Cannot say that I used them lately. Back when Mr. Lucero came out with the books and lures, I used his lures and baits quite a bit. I really liked them a lot for a few years.
Had good luck on coyotes with them. When he stopped advertising for some reason I guessed he was retired.
I liked the articles that had been written about him. Sounded like a down to earth guy. Loved his coyote book.

Maine has about as crappy of weather to trap in as one can imagine. It is really a crap show most of the season. Most years, too much rain, too hot too late or too cold to early, freezing rain, sleet, snow etc., thaw/freeze, thaw/ freeze, then just rock hard freeze. It is awesome.

I have a picture of a rather large Bobcat caught with his bait and lures. I am no great photographer but the picture came out good. It was late season, about 6 to 8 inches of snow on the ground, and snowing when I snapped the picture. The picture came out pretty cool.

The set had been made for coyotes and was a very well blended baited flat set. Nothing visual. The set proper was about 20 yards from the wood line which is where the cats typically pass.

Mac

BT. I feel the same way. Put like everything else James Lucero does. He wants everything to be perfect. Tejas did a great job with the labels on the new lure bottles. So I am sure he will be helping Mr Lucero with the pictures in the book and so on ! Having the book be perfect in every way is Mr Lucero's main goal

Great thread, I took the advice and called for the book. Mr. Lucero was great and seemed very pleased to visit, especially after I told him I had twin 11 year old boys that were learning to trap. He was quick with a couple tips and some advice and is no doubt a wealth of knowledge. I'm looking forward to getting the book and flyer to order some lure. Thanks again for the great thread.

Enjoyed his last book written well looking forward to the next.

I'll be lookin to buy it.

Enjoyed this thread!

Ttt

Does Mr Lucero take credit cards over the phone? I want to try his lure here in PA. Is there a price sheet available?

Interested myself. Would live to see a pic of the price list flyer

No. He takes money orders or check. Not set up for credit card sales. Phone # 1 575 585 6314

Last flyer i have says lures run $8 oz

He has new flyers now. Dont think he has 1 0z bottles anymore. Just 2 oz and 4 oz. I dont know price of 2 oz but 4oz is 25 dollars a bottle. If you call him , he will send you a flyer. He sent out about 100 or so to guys that order from him regularly. So just call him. You will enjoy talking to him!

I got his books for my birthday last week and he included a flyer. On it he has lure cost at 15$ for 2 oz, and 25$ for 4 oz. Shipping is 10$ for under 50$, 50$-100$ is 15$ shipping and over 100$ order shipping is 23$. He has JL#1, Coyotero, and Winter Wolf listed on this flyer. If i was tech savvy enough to post pictures on this sight I would send a photo of the flyer, but I haven't figured out how to do that yet.