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Re: Vertical drowning rod feedback [Re: Carolina Foxer] #7185792
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Also I have made adjustable tarp stakes from length of rebar and a standard washer w/ hole drilled along on edge to attach
s hook to tie rope to. Makes a very easy slide lock on rebar and think it would work well here. You want a washer with opening large enough to drop down rod easy and give you at least a 45 degree back angle to lock well. Like maybe a 3/4" washer on 1/2" rebar.


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Re: Vertical drowning rod feedback [Re: Carolina Foxer] #7186149
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The only draw back I can see Is retrieving your catch In DEEP water. Your going to have to use some type of hook to get down to reverse the lock or your going to have to pull the stake.


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Re: Vertical drowning rod feedback [Re: The Beav] #7186224
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Originally Posted by The Beav
The only draw back I can see Is retrieving your catch In DEEP water. Your going to have to use some type of hook to get down to reverse the lock or your going to have to pull the stake.

Yes....pull it up...


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Re: Vertical drowning rod feedback [Re: Carolina Foxer] #7186236
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I think If had those deep water locations and I was setting foot holds I would just use a slid rod. Just have two anchor points on the bank and don't worry about securing the deep end. Pull one anchor point and rotate the slide rod back to the bank.


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Re: Vertical drowning rod feedback [Re: The Beav] #7186377
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Originally Posted by The Beav
I think If had those deep water locations and I was setting foot holds I would just use a slid rod. Just have two anchor points on the bank and don't worry about securing the deep end. Pull one anchor point and rotate the slide rod back to the bank.


Another interesting thought. If you double stake on the bank end, and its firm enough to hold, why even shove the drowning end into the mud at all? As long as the angle of the rod is steep enough that they can keep reaching the top for air? Or just a gentle poke instead of thinking you have to drive the rod in 2 feet deep into the mud?

Just bored and thinking waiting on an ice storm to show up.



Re: Vertical drowning rod feedback [Re: Carolina Foxer] #7186408
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Originally Posted by Carolina Foxer
If you double stake on the bank end, and its firm enough to hold, why even shove the drowning end into the mud at all? .


no need, like I said yesterday Curt, about 12 posts up, I just added weight to the deep water end.


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Re: Vertical drowning rod feedback [Re: Carolina Foxer] #7186441
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Originally Posted by Carolina Foxer
Originally Posted by The Beav
I think If had those deep water locations and I was setting foot holds I would just use a slid rod. Just have two anchor points on the bank and don't worry about securing the deep end. Pull one anchor point and rotate the slide rod back to the bank.


Another interesting thought. If you double stake on the bank end, and its firm enough to hold, why even shove the drowning end into the mud at all? As long as the angle of the rod is steep enough that they can keep reaching the top for air? Or just a gentle poke instead of thinking you have to drive the rod in 2 feet deep into the mud?

Just bored and thinking waiting on an ice storm to show up.


One stake this way, just shove the top of the rod in the bank so it won't spin.

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Re: Vertical drowning rod feedback [Re: Carolina Foxer] #7186442
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Why carry 30 or 40 lbs of weight around? That's going to add up when your running 10 or more sets. If your running by boat you will probably sink It. LOL


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Re: Vertical drowning rod feedback [Re: Carolina Foxer] #7186479
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The vertical rods I made were to be able to use snares out in deeper water. Places with no trees, no anchor point, too far from bank, etc., yet a set needs to be there, such as a travelway thru aquatic vegetation.

If a location allows you to stand on the bank and anchor to the bank you dont need vertical rods.


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Re: Vertical drowning rod feedback [Re: ~ADC~] #7186557
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Originally Posted by ~ADC~
Originally Posted by Carolina Foxer
[quote=The Beav]I think If had those deep water locations and I was setting foot holds I would just use a slid rod. Just have two anchor points on the bank and don't worry about securing the deep end. Pull one anchor point and rotate the slide rod back to the bank.


Another interesting thought. If you double stake on the bank end, and its firm enough to hold, why even shove the drowning end into the mud at all? As long as the angle of the rod is steep enough that they can keep reaching the top for air? Or just a gentle poke instead of thinking you have to drive the rod in 2 feet deep into the mud?

Just bored and thinking waiting on an ice storm to show up.


One stake this way, just shove the top of the rod in the bank so it won't spin.

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That's fine and dandy ADC but using 2 anchor points on the bank keeps you from having to use waders or even hip boots.


I get the point of the vertical drowning rod In some situations.


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Re: Vertical drowning rod feedback [Re: The Beav] #7186625
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Originally Posted by The Beav
Why carry 30 or 40 lbs of weight around?


I bagged up dirt/gravel on site and slid down the rod, only carried feed sack weight.


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Re: Vertical drowning rod feedback [Re: Carolina Foxer] #7186638
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Set in your ways much beav? LOL Keep an open mind buddy, maybe they can teach an old dog a new trick.

Re: Vertical drowning rod feedback [Re: Carolina Foxer] #7186905
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Re: Vertical drowning rod feedback [Re: ~ADC~] #7205256
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Originally Posted by ~ADC~
Something like this is what I'm envisioning...

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Kind of, but the crosspiece has to be underwater. The idea is for them to wrap up and be DOA.

Re: Vertical drowning rod feedback [Re: Carolina Foxer] #7205261
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Ready to be welded. Crosspiece at midpoint. Washer near top for attaching snare. Washer a foot from the bottom to be used as a deep water anchor.

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Re: Vertical drowning rod feedback [Re: Carolina Foxer] #7205349
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Hal Sullivan did something similar but used solid dead poles found at the sight. Used a figure X (if i recall) wired together.


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Re: Vertical drowning rod feedback [Re: Aix sponsa] #7205465
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Originally Posted by Aix sponsa
Originally Posted by ~ADC~
Something like this is what I'm envisioning...

[Linked Image]



Kind of, but the crosspiece has to be underwater. The idea is for them to wrap up and be DOA.

You got it ADC & Aix...that's it.

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Re: Vertical drowning rod feedback [Re: Carolina Foxer] #7205786
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We have that same crazy law as the video wolfdog91 posted here in ohio. If you can’t put your foot on the bottom how can you legally drive a piece of rebar in the bottom of a creek. If the landowner owns the ground on the bottom of the creek without written permission? That video looks like somebody might have a day in court.

Re: Vertical drowning rod feedback [Re: Carolina Foxer] #7205827
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Re: Vertical drowning rod feedback [Re: Carolina Foxer] #7205853
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I use a similar set up like ADC uses with 10-12 foot length of 1/2 inch rerod with a big washer to stake on the bank, no hip boots just push the tip into the mud in deep water then stake the top off to the side the slide is on the rod no cable is needed that way, the stake at the top of the rig is driven at a slight angle to bind it from working upward easily. It can also be pounded into the mud if going straight down off of the bank.


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