Re: Canadian gun laws, y'all guys are screwed.
[Re: warrior]
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Posco, please elaborate on how so. I ask you to do so without name dropping “The Constitution”. That’s the biggest part of the propaganda machine that keeps Americans believing they are so free.
I’m open to honest and sincere dialogue. In what ways beside gun laws do our “chains sit more tightly than yours? I’m not chiming in to take jabs at individuals like the middle school bullies on here, but would honestly like to know what makes you feel so free. I think the US is a free country for the most part, like us, but less free than many places. The belief in freedom there is sold from the get go of your birth by the machine that wants you to think that. Having the bulk of the populace accept that idea as undeniable has been and is extremely profitable.
So honestly, in what ways are you so free?
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Re: Canadian gun laws, y'all guys are screwed.
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Posco, please elaborate on how so. I ask you to do so without name dropping “The Constitution”. That’s the biggest part of the propaganda machine that keeps Americans believing they are so free.
I’m open to honest and sincere dialogue. In what ways beside gun laws do our “chains sit more tightly than yours? I’m not chiming in to take jabs at individuals like the middle school bullies on here, but would honestly like to know what makes you feel so free. I think the US is a free country for the most part, like us, but less free than many places. The belief in freedom there is sold from the get go of your birth by the machine that wants you to think that. Having the bulk of the populace accept that idea as undeniable has been and is extremely profitable.
So honestly, in what ways are you so free? I appreciate your spirit but I don't have time just now to discuss it. I'll get back to you when I get freed up. No pun intended.
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Re: Canadian gun laws, y'all guys are screwed.
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Freedom is an illusion the US has done an excellent job of selling its people. The proof is in the thinking that a gun makes one free. ?? Don't recall saying a gun makes you free.
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Re: Canadian gun laws, y'all guys are screwed.
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Trapdog, sorry for not being more clear. I was not saying you said that I was just saying something about freedom. In regards to saying a gun says you’re free, it was not you, but that very sentiment is stated exactly in this thread, first post of page 2.
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Re: Canadian gun laws, y'all guys are screwed.
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you are right, Why would I ever want an AK, AR, whatever I want one solely BECAUSE it torques them off and they don't want me to have one! One? Get two or three
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Re: Canadian gun laws, y'all guys are screwed.
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I have carried guns in and out of gunstores,I dont see why in the world anyone would want to carry a gun to go get groceries,thats retarded,maybe you want to shoot a watermelon? Here a gun is nothing more than a tool. here, it is Freedom. In some countries freedom would be taking the watermelon for free without having a gun in the pocket.
Cold as ice!
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Re: Canadian gun laws, y'all guys are screwed.
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Trapdog, sorry for not being more clear. I was not saying you said that I was just saying something about freedom. In regards to saying a gun says you’re free, it was not you, but that very sentiment is stated exactly in this thread, first post of page 2. Understood! I think the thing we all want and should have is the Freedom to own firearms without undue government interference.
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Re: Canadian gun laws, y'all guys are screwed.
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"We, therefore, the Representatives of the united States of America, in General Congress, Assembled, appealing to the Supreme Judge of the world for the rectitude of our intentions, do, in the Name, and by Authority of the good People of these Colonies, solemnly publish and declare, That these United Colonies are, and of Right ought to be Free and Independent States; that they are Absolved from all Allegiance to the British Crown, and that all political connection between them and the State of Great Britain, is and ought to be totally dissolved; and that as Free and Independent States, they have full Power to levy War, conclude Peace, contract Alliances, establish Commerce, and to do all other Acts and Things which Independent States may of right do. And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes and our sacred Honor."
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Re: Canadian gun laws, y'all guys are screwed.
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nice ryan. i am jealous. those old guns have made a lot of meat
Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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Re: Canadian gun laws, y'all guys are screwed.
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I think warrior summed it up nicely above. Basically, what most non-Americans fail to understand is that the right to keep and bear arms is set forth and specifically enshrined within their constitution. Unlike any other country I can think of it is guaranteed as a right and not considered a privilege. What many people from the colonies fail to understand is that these rights were set forth specifically because the English monarchy (and this is verifiable fact) where such horrible, brazen dictators. SO "The Crown" so important to Canada's founding were very much the villain in the history of the USA and by their behavior facilitated the need for armed citizenry. Their constitution is as valid as anyone else's regardless of how it differs. I fail to see how so many here are off put by their gun laws. I travel extensively there and feel just as safe as I do at home.
Just happy to be here.
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Re: Canadian gun laws, y'all guys are screwed.
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I think warrior summed it up nicely above. Basically, what most non-Americans fail to understand is that the right to keep and bear arms is set forth and specifically enshrined within their constitution. Unlike any other country I can think of it is guaranteed as a right and not considered a privilege. What many people from the colonies fail to understand is that these rights were set forth specifically because the English monarchy (and this is verifiable fact) where such horrible, brazen dictators. SO "The Crown" so important to Canada's founding were very much the villain in the history of the USA and by their behavior facilitated the need for armed citizenry. Their constitution is as valid as anyone else's regardless of how it differs. I fail to see how so many here are off put by their gun laws. I travel extensively there and feel just as safe as I do at home. Summed it up well. Thank you.
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Re: Canadian gun laws, y'all guys are screwed.
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Freedom is an illusion the US has done an excellent job of selling its people. The proof is in the thinking that a gun makes one free. This here is the reality.
Forget that fear of gravity-get a little savagery in your life.
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Re: Canadian gun laws, y'all guys are screwed.
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Freedom is an illusion the US has done an excellent job of selling its people. The proof is in the thinking that a gun makes one free. This here is the reality. FAIL! if your theory were indeed valid, .gov would not be trying to take/regulate guns away; they would be encouraging citizens to "arm up" to perpetuate their illusion.
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Re: Canadian gun laws, y'all guys are screwed.
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Owning a firearm wont make you more free. I have less freedom today than what i was born with and that FACT really bothers me.
Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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Re: Canadian gun laws, y'all guys are screwed.
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Owning a firearm wont make you more free. I have less freedom today than what i was born with and that FACT really bothers me. While partially true yes you have less freedom. How did all those before you have even more freedom? Do you think you would keep your dwindling freedom with out guns? They caught for it against all odds and won! Few are willing to give up the easy life they live and fight for it today. If an armed population was not holding the complete loss of freedom what are they putting so much effort into incremental disarmament.
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