Re: Alec Baldwin shoots a woman with a prop gun
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Someone or at least 2 should be. The assistant director and Alec. https://www.koat.com/article/alec-baldwin-shooting-search-warrant/38040929There were three prop guns on a cart near where the crew was rehearsing. Listen: 911 calls detail chaos after movie set shooting An assistant director then grabbed one of the guns and handed it to Alec Baldwin. That assistant director then proclaimed to the crew the term “Cold Gun” – which is a term used to let the crew know a gun with NO live rounds was being used. At that point, the search warrant states Alec Baldwin then fired the gun. The warrant states cinematographer Halyna Hutchins sustained a gunshot wound to the chest. Investigators say the director, Joel Souza, was standing behind Hutchins and sustained a gunshot wound to the shoulder. The assistant director tells investigators he did not know there were any rounds in the gun he gave to Baldwin. Investigators say when they came on scene, Baldwin appeared to have bloodstains on his clothing. Investigators collected that clothing and brought Baldwin in for a statement. So let me see if I understand this right, the assistant director hands alec a gun says "cold gun" which means no live ammo didn't know if there were any rounds in the gun. Alec then didn't check the gun. That is negligence on both of them and as Sniper mentions involuntary manslaughter
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Re: Alec Baldwin shoots a woman with a prop gun
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Gun violence is getting out of hand. Now pop guns are killing people.
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Re: Alec Baldwin shoots a woman with a prop gun
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Baldwin ain't gonna get charged. This is NM, where elites and politicans are very corrupt and protected at all costs.
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Re: Alec Baldwin shoots a woman with a prop gun
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/ State DA not sure if charges will be filed for him or anyone else yet.
If this was anyone else there would already be charges filed for at the very least 2 counts negligent use of a firearm. Nm politics is beyond corrupt so I see them all skating by. Remind us how many counts of negigent us of a firearm did Cheney get charged? Could it be that this was just a tragic accident or do we need to charge people for everything> Could it be there is someone whose sole responsibility on the set is to see to it the gun is properly inspected and the correct type of prop rounds are used? Alec Baldwin is a douche but in my opinion, if the evidence plays out something went amiss with the prop round it's a civil matter and the movie company is liable. I would really hope it was an accident but it's too fishy to be an accident. Yes everyone and anyone who touched the gun and ammo should be responsible.
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Re: Alec Baldwin shoots a woman with a prop gun
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Unless they can stick someone else with intentionally loading that gun with live rounds, I'll wager that Alec at least gets charged with involuntary manslaughter. I'll take that bet. But I hope somebody is held accountable.
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Re: Alec Baldwin shoots a woman with a prop gun
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Sounds like the union crew walked off the set because of work safety issue and budget cuts before this took place. It’s like giving a baby a gun to play with, with the lack of experience remaining most likely.
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Re: Alec Baldwin shoots a woman with a prop gun
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Sounds like the union crew walked off the set because of work safety issue and budget cuts before this took place. It’s like giving a baby a gun to play with, with the lack of experience remaining most likely. Darn the luck.
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Re: Alec Baldwin shoots a woman with a prop gun
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Several members of the camera crew walked off the New Mexico set of “Rust” in protest hours before lead actor and producer Alec Baldwin fatally shot the cinematographer and wounded the movie’s director with a prop gun, the Los Angeles Times reports.
The half-dozen camera crew operators and their assistants left the set of the Western over a dispute about working conditions, including long hours and low pay, three people not authorized to speak publicly told the newspaper.
An unnamed “knowledgeable person” said that there had been three prop gun mishaps before the fatal shooting – two on Saturday and one last week, telling the Times, “there was a serious lack of safety meetings on this set.”
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Re: Alec Baldwin shoots a woman with a prop gun
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I don’t even know what a blank looks like. Do the actors?
Actors are being told what to do by the movie directors and producers. They are clothed, fed, scripted, acting in character. As far as I’m concerned, Alec Baldwin didn’t shoot them.
Whoever let that pos get close to anything bigger than an airsoft gun should have to have a mental health evaluation -- and yes he did shoot them -- he pulled the trigger. I don't care that he was acting in character or not.
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Re: Alec Baldwin shoots a woman with a prop gun
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I can't warp my head around someone taking a gun and pointing it at someone that hadn't been inspected by the one pulling the trigger prior to the trigger pull. Heck, I'd flinch knowing it was empty empty.
Make believe is a weird world I guess.
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Re: Alec Baldwin shoots a woman with a prop gun
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Was the gun ever concealed while in Baldwin's possesion? Concealed carry is regulated in NM. Does Baldwin have a concealed carry permit? Is there an exception for art? Hang him, that's what he'd do if it was you.
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Was the gun ever concealed while in Baldwin's possesion? Concealed carry is regulated in NM. Does Baldwin have a concealed carry permit? Is there an exception for art? Hang him, that's what he'd do if it was you. exactly
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Re: Alec Baldwin shoots a woman with a prop gun
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Was the gun ever concealed while in Baldwin's possesion? Concealed carry is regulated in NM. Does Baldwin have a concealed carry permit? Is there an exception for art? Hang him, that's what he'd do if it was you. exactly He wouldn't qualify for ccw in NM since he is a resident of NY and NY does not have reciprocity with NM. That means it would be a felony for him to conceal carry
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I can't warp my head around someone taking a gun and pointing it at someone that hadn't been inspected by the one pulling the trigger prior to the trigger pull. Heck, I'd flinch knowing it was empty empty.
Make believe is a weird world I guess.
There does seem to be a huge disconnect between the hollywierd liberals and common sense -- lack of responsibillity also.
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Re: Alec Baldwin shoots a woman with a prop gun
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How does a live round "accidentally" get into a prop gun? I ain't buying that this was an accident.
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Re: Alec Baldwin shoots a woman with a prop gun
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So much for due process. The Trapperman lynch mob has spoken.
I don’t like the guy anymore than the rest of folks here. But. He should be afforded the same unbiased courtesy that we would want for ourselves or family.
If found guilty then he should be beaten senseless with the book and locked away. Until then like it or not, he’s an innocent citizen with the same rights as every one of us.
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Re: Alec Baldwin shoots a woman with a prop gun
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If any charges are filed it will probably be some negligent charge against a prop guy or stage hand.
Eh...wot?
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Re: Alec Baldwin shoots a woman with a prop gun
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So much for due process. The Trapperman lynch mob has spoken.
I don’t like the guy anymore than the rest of folks here. But. He should be afforded the same unbiased courtesy that we would want for ourselves or family.
If found guilty then he should be beaten senseless with the book and locked away. Until then like it or not, he’s an innocent citizen with the same rights as every one of us.
Owl This is just a mostly peaceful discussion......not the judge and jury. Have a cup of coffee and simmer down.
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