Does low velocity ammo have enough power?
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02/23/22 01:18 AM
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Shotty Bob
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So I was thinking about how low velocity ammo would be better for putting down critters in traps then I remembered hearing about these 22 shells that don’t use any powder just primer and are suppose to be real quiet and slow. So I looked them up found them they are called aguila calibris and are rated at 420 FPS with a 20 grain projectile. I’m no expert but I thought that may be riding the line on killing a coyote humanly in a trap so I was wondering if anybody has ever used them before and what their thoughts were on them.
Ps. If there’s any thing wrong with this wrong place writing error my bad it’s my first time writings any thing on here so please excuse me.
Bob
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Re: Does low velocity ammo have enough power?
[Re: Shotty Bob]
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02/23/22 10:37 PM
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Years ago they used to make what was call "22 BB caps" just a round ball with no powder, just primer. I haven't seen them since I was a kid, but it sounds like what you are describing. I always use "22 CB caps" less powder than a 22 short but great for dispatching trapped critters. CCI makes them loaded into a LR case which makes for easier handling imo.
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Re: Does low velocity ammo have enough power?
[Re: Shotty Bob]
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02/24/22 02:18 PM
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I had some of those round ball type, very similar to these conical ones. There is an acorn stamped into the head, lost the can they came in, I think they were Flowbert or something like that. We used them for starlings and English sparrows invading our purple martin houses. On a squirrel, ya had to hit him just right or you'd be tracking him. I carry a Ruger SS semi and use the subsonic. Quieter than a regular short. Doesn't cycle the action but I like that. Fill the mag, one shot, the gun is empty till yopu cycle it manually. Very handy .... and safe.The CB Longs are good too, just a bit louder. Still have to place the shot well, they can glance off.
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Re: Does low velocity ammo have enough power?
[Re: Shotty Bob]
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02/27/22 03:51 AM
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I have had bad luck with low velocity and subsonic, especially thru a handgun, even 6.5” barrel. They do not generate enough velocity to expand. Thru a handgun the absolute best by far is the CCI segmented hollow points that are rated at 1640 fps. Thru a pistol probably half that speed. Quick dispatch! From a rifle the same bullet rated at 720 or so. They make a series of that load. Very impressive.
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Re: Does low velocity ammo have enough power?
[Re: Shotty Bob]
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02/27/22 11:48 AM
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Using shorts in a beretta bobcat semi one at a time is no good on coon. Won’t penetrate skull. Since shorts are more expensive than lr, that was my only attempt using anything else to be a little quieter.
The shorts were fine in a 6” revolver on coyote heart shot. I did not try using the revolver on my coon line.
I now use a death ray for the coon line. No noise at all.
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Re: Does low velocity ammo have enough power?
[Re: Shotty Bob]
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04/01/22 04:51 PM
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I shot a possom 9 times at 5 feet with a revolver, didn't kill it, was using colibris. Never used them again.
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Re: Does low velocity ammo have enough power?
[Re: Shotty Bob]
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04/01/22 10:26 PM
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No idea about those Aquila shells but this whole conversation is based on assumption of correct shot placement. The lesser the damage a shell can do then of course then the finer the shot required to do the desired effect.
Shot a few caribou and snared black bears with .22LR and you can instant drop them if you do it right the first time. Almost pointless to shoot other than direct front on slightly above the eyes or back on centre line between the ears.
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Re: Does low velocity ammo have enough power?
[Re: Shotty Bob]
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04/02/22 04:11 PM
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Yes, normal .22 lr I have great respect for. Colibris, however, have failed to penetrate a possum's skull at 5 feet, and that is disappointing.
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Re: Does low velocity ammo have enough power?
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04/07/22 09:07 PM
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They will not work on coon. X2
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