Photo Phriday 37
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Bezoars, Madstones, Enteroliths. I don't really know much about them, and, unfortunately, I don't usually sift through the stomach contents of deer, elk, and other ungulates I shoot. To me, these stomach "stones" are very interesting. This is a photo of one that a friend of mine found in a Sitka blacktail deer in SE Alaska. Obviously, it's been sawn open to view the cross-section. Any of you out there have a collection? Jack
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Re: Photo Phriday 37
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I never knew there was such a thing. Now I will be digging in gut piles. What wind and sand do to glass over time. This glass was from the early to mid 1940's on Chirikof Island AK.
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Re: Photo Phriday 37
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Interesting! How many would you find in a stomach and are they in every single deer?
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Jack; Is that black area in the center a solid nucleus or a void in the stone ? Sorry it's not clear in the photo. The dark center is actually a "real" stone. It was probably inadvertently swallowed and became the nucleus around which the bezoar formed, much like the grain of sand in an oyster becomes the nucleus of the pearl. Interesting! How many would you find in a stomach and are they in every single deer? JP, I think they are quite rare. I would be surprised if they are in 5% of deer, but I'm only guessing. On the other hand, I suspect that they are a lot more common than one would suspect, simply because nobody really looks for them.
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Awesome! Be interesting to know if that occurs in other animals also.
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JP, I think they are quite rare. I would be surprised if they are in 5% of deer, but I'm only guessing. On the other hand, I suspect that they are a lot more common than one would suspect, simply because nobody really looks for them.
Ok cool! I might take a peek at some this Fall.
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Lol Lugnut, is that all from one Turkey?
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It is from that one bird. Going by the gizzards I've dissected, I'd say that's about an average amount for a two-year-old, 18-20 lb. gobbler.
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I've heard the same thing about the healing properties for snakebite. Soak the bezoar (madstone) in milk, set it on the fang-marks from a rattlesnake. The madstone will turn dark as it sucks out all the poison. Although I do put a lot of credence in old "folkllore" remedies (and a lot of them have scientific basis), the ability of a bezoar to cure snakebite is a bit too far-fetched for me.
Jack
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