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Why AR's? #7600332
06/07/22 08:56 PM
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Question: If 97% of crimes committed with a firearm are committed with handguns, why does the government want to take the rifles so badly?


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Re: Why AR's? [Re: maintenanceguy] #7600335
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Because they "look" like the guns that mow down hundreds of people in seconds, in the movies. It is low-hanging fruit.


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Re: Why AR's? [Re: maintenanceguy] #7600336
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If u are going to defend ur freedoms against a tyrannical government ARs are ur best weapon. It's not about the safety of the population. It's about control and power. That's why the founders but in the 2nd and that's why the current regime wants to take it away. Spread the information brother

Re: Why AR's? [Re: maintenanceguy] #7600338
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Two reasons

One the bogeyman factor. Villianize scary black rifles to gin up fear that will get a wide swath of firearms banned.

Two the AR is the most commonly available equivalent individual arm to what the state is equipped with.

Re: Why AR's? [Re: maintenanceguy] #7600348
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Originally Posted by maintenanceguy
Question: If 97% of crimes committed with a firearm are committed with handguns, why does the government want to take the rifles so badly?


because they don't like you having an equal to what they carry.

they are afraid of you and the second amendment and what it is really intended for.


it is one gun with all common interchangeable parts, you can put all the tools needed to assemble and repair them in a tool bag, there are millions of them and they all take the same magazine and many the same ammo.

for the same reason most countries will not let citizens own "military" cartridges like 9mm or 5.56 funny isn't that the two they are against right now ?


America only has one issue, we have a Responsibility crisis and everything else stems from it.
Re: Why AR's? [Re: trapperkeck] #7600350
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Originally Posted by trapperkeck
Because they "look" like the guns that mow down hundreds of people in seconds, in the movies. It is low-hanging fruit.

Nope. Try again.

Re: Why AR's? [Re: maintenanceguy] #7600355
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please do not think it has anything to do with public safety , I assure you it does not.


America only has one issue, we have a Responsibility crisis and everything else stems from it.
Re: Why AR's? [Re: Flicker Shad] #7600357
06/07/22 09:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Flicker Shad
Originally Posted by trapperkeck
Because they "look" like the guns that mow down hundreds of people in seconds, in the movies. It is low-hanging fruit.

Nope. Try again.

I am moist with anticipation to hear your take on the subject.


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Re: Why AR's? [Re: Yes sir] #7600377
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Originally Posted by Yes sir
If u are going to defend ur freedoms against a tyrannical government ARs are ur best weapon. It's not about the safety of the population. It's about control and power. That's why the founders but in the 2nd and that's why the current regime wants to take it away. Spread the information brother

This.


Pistols, shotguns and bolt action hunting rifles are not a threat to a governments power. They'd like to ban them too but that can come later.
Look at Canada; A couple of years ago they went after assault rifles, now they're going after pistols.
NWO governments aren't comfortable seeing state of the arts military type weaponry in civilian hands.
They're not overly concerned with drug dealers shooting each other in the large cities with pistols are they? What was it, 42 shot in Chicago last week?

All governments powers come from the barrel of a gun.

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Re: Why AR's? [Re: GREENCOUNTYPETE] #7600429
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They want all guns. The AR just fits into their agenda best right now

Re: Why AR's? [Re: maintenanceguy] #7600435
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Because pistols are for fighting your way back to the rifle you should have never put down in the first place.

Handguns suck, limited range, limited accurate range for most shooters, and low power.

I don't like my weak 223 rifles but they are much better than a hand gun. 450 yard coyote yep killed him. Furthest kills with a hand gun have been around 100. Most under 35yards.

The only positive about a handgun is its easy to Carry and conceal.

If you were going up against handgun and you have rifles your advantage is substantial.

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It's all racial. It's because most AR's are black and the government is racist.


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Re: Why AR's? [Re: GREENCOUNTYPETE] #7600718
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Originally Posted by GREENCOUNTYPETE
Originally Posted by maintenanceguy
Question: If 97% of crimes committed with a firearm are committed with handguns, why does the government want to take the rifles so badly?


because they don't like you having an equal to what they carry.

they are afraid of you and the second amendment and what it is really intended for.


it is one gun with all common interchangeable parts, you can put all the tools needed to assemble and repair them in a tool bag, there are millions of them and they all take the same magazine and many the same ammo.

for the same reason most countries will not let citizens own "military" cartridges like 9mm or 5.56 funny isn't that the two they are against right now ?





what he said


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Re: Why AR's? [Re: maintenanceguy] #7600729
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We tend to argue about the wrong things.

Joe/Left claim that no civilian should have "weapons of war." We reply that the AR-15 isn't a weapon of war.

The citizenry keeping and bearing weapons of war is the entire purpose of the 2A.

It isn't about hunting, target shooting, "common use" blah, blah, blah... It's about owning weapons that are effective at killing tyrants and their armies. That's it. Period.

The 2A is the final stopgap measure to ensure that we have the means to violently murder anyone foolish enough to invade... or any/all who disregard constitutional procedure to enact tyranny.

All the other stuff is academic hogwash.

Mike


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Re: Why AR's? [Re: maintenanceguy] #7600751
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Because that is the gun of choice for mass shootings. Same reason the military chose them, but they miss the big picture still takes a person to pull the trigger a symptom of sick America.

Re: Why AR's? [Re: maintenanceguy] #7600753
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If the 2nd is the last stop gap to insure the rest of our rights one should ask themselves why the left/OWO crowd wants it gone so bad. They have went so far as to undermine the purpose and power of the whole constitution mainly to restrict then abolish the 2nd.

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Re: Why AR's? [Re: Mike in A-town] #7600754
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Originally Posted by Mike in A-town
We tend to argue about the wrong things.

Joe/Left claim that no civilian should have "weapons of war." We reply that the AR-15 isn't a weapon of war.

The citizenry keeping and bearing weapons of war is the entire purpose of the 2A.

It isn't about hunting, target shooting, "common use" blah, blah, blah... It's about owning weapons that are effective at killing tyrants and their armies. That's it. Period.

The 2A is the final stopgap measure to ensure that we have the means to violently murder anyone foolish enough to invade... or any/all who disregard constitutional procedure to enact tyranny.

All the other stuff is academic hogwash.

Mike


We have a winner!

Re: Why AR's? [Re: maintenanceguy] #7601011
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What Mike said is exactly what is in the Federalist Papers. No standing army can stand against the numbers of an armed populace.

Re: Why AR's? [Re: maintenanceguy] #7601050
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Because when they define ďARísĒ it will almost certainly include a wide variety of other semi autos.

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