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Re: "the majority of Americans" on abortion [Re: wr otis] #7613322
06/26/22 05:22 PM
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I think abortion is awful. Banning it will however have consequences including a lot more kids born into awful situations.

I look forward to seeing the Tman adoption photos next spring.


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Re: "the majority of Americans" on abortion [Re: Blaine County] #7613325
06/26/22 05:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Blaine County
I think abortion is awful. Banning it will however have consequences including a lot more kids born into awful situations.

I look forward to seeing the Tman adoption photos next spring.

SMH!


I wonder if tap dancers walk into a room, look at the floor, and think, I'd tap that. I wonder about things.....
Re: "the majority of Americans" on abortion [Re: Blaine County] #7613329
06/26/22 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Blaine County
I think abortion is awful. Banning it will however have consequences including a lot more kids born into awful situations.

I look forward to seeing the Tman adoption photos next spring.



Kill off the poors! Why you trying to pawn off the poors on the rest of us if you libs claim care so much?

Re: "the majority of Americans" on abortion [Re: wr otis] #7613330
06/26/22 05:28 PM
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Let's face it, some of y'all are racist bigots.

Re: "the majority of Americans" on abortion [Re: warrior] #7613333
06/26/22 05:31 PM
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Originally Posted by warrior
Or let's be honest here.

Free from morality and the consequences of one's actions.

Bottom line for the most part

Re: "the majority of Americans" on abortion [Re: wr otis] #7613338
06/26/22 05:34 PM
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Someone here said "grey area". Even my pastor did this morning.

I don't understand that, at all.

There is no grey area with God.

I AM THAT I AM.

I am the the way, the truth and the light.

Nothing grey about that. Nor is there in this.

Thou shalt not kill.

Or

Thou shalt not have other gods.

Many all y'all spout, shall not be infringed. Yet, will hem and haw when it comes to God and his word.

Re: "the majority of Americans" on abortion [Re: wr otis] #7613339
06/26/22 05:35 PM
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My pastor spoke to it as well. I wasn't disappointed in his comments.

Re: "the majority of Americans" on abortion [Re: wr otis] #7613345
06/26/22 05:39 PM
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I think any exceptions should be few. You hear rape tossed around a lot, but I really don't feel that's a good enough reason to murder an innocent child.

Exceptions I would support would be if carrying the child to term will kill the mother. The loss of a baby is tragic, but the mother could have another child, but not another life of her own.

I also think maybe an exception for incest. I don't feel it would be right to force a 12 year old girl to carry her own father's child to term.


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Re: "the majority of Americans" on abortion [Re: wr otis] #7613347
06/26/22 05:40 PM
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I believe "Thou shall not kill" includes unborn babies.

Re: "the majority of Americans" on abortion [Re: wr otis] #7613350
06/26/22 05:44 PM
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Here's a thought.

With modern medicine babies are surviving premature births earlier and earlier.

So assuming a pregnancy must be terminated, which I do not concede, why must the child be killed?

Why not deliver at a time the child could survive?

Re: "the majority of Americans" on abortion [Re: wr otis] #7613364
06/26/22 05:54 PM
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The hoopla on abortion is despicable. No side won here.

The SCOTUS did not rule on the legality of/for abortion. What they did rule on is who gets to decide! The power to decide was returned to the individual states, removing power from the power hunger federal government where it had been for the past almost 50 years. Why? Because, there is not guaranteed right to abortion anywhere written in the Constitution of the United States of America or Its' Amendments!

It's important to note, nowhere did the Justice's opinion ( personal or otherwise) offer whether abortion is good/bad, right/ wrong, or legal/ illegal.

Some states had decided the issue long before the Feds got involved. Other states are deciding now that the power has been given back to them.

Going forward there are any number of options:
1) If the majority want the Feds to control abortion, for or against ... create and ratify a new Constitutional Amendment.
2) If the majority in the state don't like the current state decision, work to change the law/s of your state.
3) Absent one and two, move to a state or country where their believe systems and laws align with your own
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Sometimes, people have to take responsibility and action to ensure what they feel enhances their and their families lives. Nothing is written in stone anymore, it all can be changed following the established rules of this Republic.

All I'm going to say, rant over!

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Re: "the majority of Americans" on abortion [Re: wr otis] #7613377
06/26/22 06:03 PM
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You are correct but I would argue that there was a win though.

The win was restoring to a small degree the rule of law where the individual states were restored some of the sovereignity recognized by the tenth amendment.

Maybe it will start a trend

Re: "the majority of Americans" on abortion [Re: wr otis] #7613394
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IMO, the overwhelming majority of Americans are opposed to abortion . I was at my brother and sister in laws camp on a lake in the Adirondack Mountains yesterday. People water skiing, tubing, riding around in their party barges drinking ,relaxing, and barbecuing. Didnít see anybody beating drums, screaming on bull horns, carrying signs or crying. Unlike those idiot protesters, Most Americans have a life and are living it, if given a chance.

Re: "the majority of Americans" on abortion [Re: wr otis] #7613433
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Hypocrisy is innate, like it, or not. Not responding to anyone in particular, but, we are all guilty.


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Re: "the majority of Americans" on abortion [Re: yotetrapper30] #7613462
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Originally Posted by yotetrapper30
I think any exceptions should be few. You hear rape tossed around a lot, but I really don't feel that's a good enough reason to murder an innocent child.

Exceptions I would support would be if carrying the child to term will kill the mother. The loss of a baby is tragic, but the mother could have another child, but not another life of her own.

I also think maybe an exception for incest. I don't feel it would be right to force a 12 year old girl to carry her own father's child to term.


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Re: "the majority of Americans" on abortion [Re: wr otis] #7613469
06/26/22 07:36 PM
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Well taxes will soon be going up to raise all the crack babies and abortions will go on in other places legal or not. Sad world to use abortion as birth control but its what the world is today.

Re: "the majority of Americans" on abortion [Re: wr otis] #7613470
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Just read that 55% on North Carolina residents weíre pro choice. If I donít want to pay for your kids student loans, I also donít want to pay for all the other expenses of unwanted children.

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Re: "the majority of Americans" on abortion [Re: wr otis] #7613474
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danvee crack babies dont get aborted cause their mamas aint got any money.

this decision didnt change much other than some girls will have to travel further


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Re: "the majority of Americans" on abortion [Re: wr otis] #7613475
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The whole problem is that there is too much money being made on abortion. Big pharmacy make a lot of money off abortion and they pay off congress to get them to have it tax funded. If congress lost money every time someone had an abortion it would be shut down. I wonder how many would want an abortion if they had to pay cash up front.


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Re: "the majority of Americans" on abortion [Re: charles] #7613492
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Originally Posted by charles
Just read that 55% on North Carolina residents weíre pro choice. If I donít want to pay for your kids student loans, I also donít want to pay for all the other expenses of unwanted children.

But, you're probably paying for the person who's having the abortion via food stamps housing assistance, energy assistance etc. You're probably paying for the abortion too.

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