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Re: Dinosaur [Re: Swamp Wolf] #7658338
08/26/22 01:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Swamp Wolf
Originally Posted by nate
One of science biggest lie's to discredit creation.

Lol

So, all those bones are fake? Ahh, you're just trying to start a long thread...


Yes, it developed into a long thread. I quit reading after the first page.

Re: Dinosaur [Re: nate] #7658339
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If dinosaurs are so old, how come they are finding there remains with soft pliable tissues?


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Re: Dinosaur [Re: nate] #7658368
08/26/22 05:42 AM
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“People travel to marvel at the mountains, seas, rivers and stars and they pass right by themselves without astonishment.”

Augustine of Hippo was correct then, and he's still correct.
Except that in the 1600+ years since Augustine first wrote about the human condition - totally depraved and in need of divine saving grace - people today marvel at technology more than they do the great outdoors. I would argue, as one who ministers and counsels with others in spiritual matters, this hasn't been as positive a progression for our minds, bodies, and souls as today's philosophers tell us. Not hardly. For those unaware, the broken, hurting, suffering, and grieving are piling up and the compassionate support persons are jumping ship. The task is too immense and most days it seems endless and thankless because today more than ever, the broken and depraved (us) cheer the results of their life choices to the detriment of themselves and their families. I have seen this 1000 times and I will see it again where a person will perish rather than repent of whatever it is that got them in a no-win spot in the first place.
Augustine was correct then and he's still got us humans pegged 100%.

This thread has been an enjoyable read because of all the various thoughts and post opinions. Ain't it grand we're not all alike!
Fruit, vegetation, trees, great sea monsters, every living creature, birds, cattle, beasts of the earth, and all the creeping things were/are created to multiply after their own kind. Pretty straight forward science to those of us who know a bit about scientific reproduction.

But humans are the only creatures to have a different "multiply" schema according to God's Word.
So dinosaurs are real, but how long ago they roamed the earth I don't care because today's situations will be all I can handle anyway, and I'll marvel at the people who God has made in spite of us and our grumbling nature.

Genesis 1:26-27 is vital to knowing "Why?" we humans are here and dinosaurs are not.
Then God said, “Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness; and let them rule over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the sky and over the cattle and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth. God created man in His own image, in the image of God He created him; male and female He created them.

You see, it's not dinosaurs arguing when humans roamed the earth. It's the other way around. Humans are vital to God's Plan of Redemption and Restoration of the earth, but dinosaurs must not be.
Or just like the nation of Israel, who God Himself chose, and who again occupies a "land" after nearly 2000 years of having "no land" (as the prophets wrote long ago) .... dinosaurs would still be roaming.
God's Plan has been revealed to us >>>> The God-man named Jesus did rise as the first to defeat death and rise from the grave after being dead, dead, dead, and the reason people like us can post on this trapping forum, can trap in the 1st place, and can enjoy each others company..... is by God's Grace alone.

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Re: Dinosaur [Re: waggler] #7658370
08/26/22 05:46 AM
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Originally Posted by waggler
Originally Posted by Providence Farm
I have not read all the post since it opened on the last page but I get the general direction this is going. Science says the earth is 300million years old. The Bible around 6000. Just look at the fossils.

Carbon dating is only good for about 2500 years from what I have read. After that they said ther is not enough left to get accurate readings.

When Mount St Helens exploded the results were tons of rocking flooding and movement around. We have no discrepancies on the exact date on when that occurred 20 or 30 years later some fossils were sent in to be dated and they came back 25 million years old. Shoots a hole right through their science and dating.

The creation museum has some very good displays that answer these questions.


Source please.


I found this
https://www.icr.org/article/a-30-years-later-lessons-mount-st-helens


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Re: Dinosaur [Re: nate] #7658382
08/26/22 06:03 AM
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I know the feeling Grandpa Trapper !

I quit after the 1st, 2nd, 3rd,4th,5th,6th,7th and soon I will be quitting the 8th and looking forward to the 9th, lol.

Re: Dinosaur [Re: AirportTrapper] #7658399
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Originally Posted by AirportTrapper


Interesting read. So much for, "the science is settled" arguement.

Re: Dinosaur [Re: walleye101] #7658425
08/26/22 07:19 AM
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Originally Posted by walleye101
Originally Posted by AirportTrapper


Interesting read. So much for, "the science is settled" arguement.

So I read the article, I was looking for an actual source for the scientific data. The problem though is when I found the specific subject we are talking about, the source they quoted was an earlier article that they published, no citation of the actual study that dated the rock. That is not honest science and is typical of my experience reading young earth "science" literature.
Furthermore regarding other subjects that the article talks about such as the rapid build up of sediment layers after the eruption; they act as though it's a new discovery that proves some of their points. They know full well this isn't new information. Just one example is the Katmai eruption in about 1910 in Alaska also left new sediment layers hundreds of feet thick very rapidly, this geological event has been well studied for decades.
Every geologist knows that there are sedimentary deposits that where the evidence shows the sediments accumulated very rapidly, and there are sedimentary deposited that formed over long periods of time.


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Re: Dinosaur [Re: Providence Farm] #7658432
08/26/22 07:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Providence Farm
I have not read all the post since it opened on the last page but I get the general direction this is going. Science says the earth is 300million years old. The Bible around 6000. Just look at the fossils.

Carbon dating is only good for about 2500 years from what I have read. After that they said ther is not enough left to get accurate readings.

When Mount St Helens exploded the results were tons of rocking flooding and movement around. We have no discrepancies on the exact date on when that occurred 20 or 30 years later some fossils were sent in to be dated and they came back 25 million years old. Shoots a hole right through their science and dating.

The creation museum has some very good displays that answer these questions.


Science says the earth is 4.5 Billion years old. Carbon dating is fairly accurate to 50,000 years.


Re: Dinosaur [Re: FL cracker in AK] #7658442
08/26/22 07:44 AM
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Originally Posted by FL cracker in AK
If dinosaurs are so old, how come they are finding there remains with soft pliable tissues?

Where you are seeing that soft dinosaur tissue has been found?


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Re: Dinosaur [Re: DakotaBoy] #7658474
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Originally Posted by DakotaBoy
Originally Posted by FL cracker in AK
If dinosaurs are so old, how come they are finding there remains with soft pliable tissues?

Where you are seeing that soft dinosaur tissue has been found?




Re: Dinosaur [Re: nate] #7658488
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I find it ironic how a scientist that has finding that blow current scientific facts out of the water will be so mater a fact about how old the Rick's and bones are.

Re: Dinosaur [Re: nate] #7658501
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Of course the dino bones are 65+ million years old Providence Farm because that is how old the rocks it is found in are! Sarcasm Font on.

Re: Dinosaur [Re: nate] #7658559
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Very interesting youtube video, not new news. Watch clear to the end it is interesting to hear her quote and young earthers twisting and misusing her research.


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Re: Dinosaur [Re: Michigander] #7658566
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Originally Posted by Michigander
Originally Posted by Providence Farm
I have not read all the post since it opened on the last page but I get the general direction this is going. Science says the earth is 300million years old. The Bible around 6000. Just look at the fossils.

Carbon dating is only good for about 2500 years from what I have read. After that they said ther is not enough left to get accurate readings.

When Mount St Helens exploded the results were tons of rocking flooding and movement around. We have no discrepancies on the exact date on when that occurred 20 or 30 years later some fossils were sent in to be dated and they came back 25 million years old. Shoots a hole right through their science and dating.

The creation museum has some very good displays that answer these questions.


Science says the earth is 4.5 Billion years old. Carbon dating is fairly accurate to 50,000 years.

I don't quite understand your point. Geologist don't use carbon dating to date rocks, as you correctly point out. Carbon dating only works out to 50,000 years at most.
What I find amusing is that young earthers admit that carbon dating only works to about 50,000 years. There are many things that we can fairly accurately date out to at least 20K-30K years. So if the young earthers are willing to conceded that, then how can they insist that the earth is only 6000 to at most 10,000 years old?


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Re: Dinosaur [Re: waggler] #7658570
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Originally Posted by waggler
Very interesting youtube video, not new news. Watch clear to the end it is interesting to hear her quote and young earthers twisting and misusing her research.



That's the ironic part. Before her mistake of leaving the bone in acid to long lead to her discovery of the soft tissue saying there was still soft dinosaur tissue was down right impossible crazy talk. Everyone knows that is not possible. Yet she is still dug in and entrenched on the age of said bones.... OK.

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I was just pointing out his numbers are wrong.


Re: Dinosaur [Re: Providence Farm] #7658626
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Originally Posted by Providence Farm
Originally Posted by waggler
Very interesting youtube video, not new news. Watch clear to the end it is interesting to hear her quote and young earthers twisting and misusing her research.



That's the ironic part. Before her mistake of leaving the bone in acid to long lead to her discovery of the soft tissue saying there was still soft dinosaur tissue was down right impossible crazy talk. Everyone knows that is not possible. Yet she is still dug in and entrenched on the age of said bones.... OK.


IF there is surviving soft tissue, that still doesn't necessarily disprove an old earth; even soft tissue remaining in fossils just thousands of years old would be astounding.


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They have also found soft tissue in the horn of a tricertops from the same formation. Link below.

Soft Tissue in Tricertops Horn

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He is a scientist who is funded by religious right so what do you expect him to say? Anything else and he would be looking for a job. And before you say anything some on the other side are just as bad.

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