I don't need a million.......50-100 or so.......

Anyone have Swamp White Oak on their place? I know some parks plant them for shade.

I really am only interested in true Swampers......not any other white OR red oak.....

If you have them, happy to pay what you need to gather and ship......

Thanks!

Zagman

I can get you that many or more and yes they will be true Swamp white oak.

What does a real swamp white oak look like?

The leaves have a broader look, with the lobes NOT being as obvious and finger-like on a traditional white oak........

MZ

Oh, I'd also be interested in some shellbark hickory nuts for planting......I have shagbark, looking for shellbark.

Thanks!

MZ

Mark, try Chief River Nursery. They have swamp oak and shellbark hickory seedlings. Great people to deal with.

hey mark I try planting acorns, no luck, been planting seedily now and putting them in tubes they are growing great , in the tubes you get about 3 feet of growth a year , and the animals can't eat them

Yup, I was going to start them in pots and plant them once big enough and YES, protect them with tubes. Our whitetails wipe out anything NOT in tubes or wire!

Thanks!

MZ

A friend has had good luck doing them in a bed I'm the garden then transplanting. Easier to keep out chipmunks and squirrels

Mr Zagman I can probably get you some swamp white oak acorns if no one else is able to send you some I always thought they are easy to determine which are regular white oak and which are swamp white oaks They are a beautiful tree when the leaves are all off .I like the color and the structure of the branches .

Thank you all for the offers and input.....I knew I could count on this place!

MZ

Hickories are one family of trees that its best to know the Genus/specie name, lots of different and often the same name for different trees.
I have Shagbark (Carya ovata) and Bitternut (Carya cordiformis) growing on my place.
Lots people call Shellbark (Carya laciniosa) Shagbark too, I don't know why, the bark is no where as near shaggy as a true Shagbark but they do.

Go with the seedlings, they will as tall as you in a few years!

Mark im sure you have plenty of offers but I can get you all you want. We have a lot of big mature trees on our farm. My favorite tree stand is in a swamp white oak. Let me know if you need any from me.

I know that whether I plant seedlings OR grow them myself from acorns, I will see little fruit from my efforts in my lifetime........(I am 57)

But, I DO see value in making the place better for wildlife, and the next guy will appreciate it!

I have some tamarack (larch) on my place that a guy planted 30 years ago.....he is still alive and I am thankful that he planted them! Hanging my hat on that! LOL

MZ

That is proper forest management, doing for the next generation.

From an old Greek proverb..."A society grows great when old men plant trees in whose shade they know they shall never sit."

That's Awesome

Different growing conditions and climates but my 12'-18" seedlings that are 17 years old are now 15'-20' trees that started producing quite a bit at roughly 12 years old.

Anybody ever planted saw-tooth oak? I planted 5 seedlings 15 years ago when we bought our home and they are already producing huge acorns. The deer love them. I pick up several 5-gallon buckets full every year and plant the acorns or put them in a pile and put a camera on them. Usually get 200 plus pictures of the same momma doe and her young chowing down on the entire pile in one night.

Mo Dept of Conservation sells bareroot seedlings to Mo residents and out of state too:

MDC George White nursery
PO Box 119
Licking Mo, 65542-0119
573 674 3229

lots of 10, $1 per
lots of 25, .60 per
100+, .50 per

request catalog and order now for spring planting

Does a guy need to put acorns in hot water (don't know temp) to kill the worms but not so hot to kill the acorn. Or can a guy just freeze them ?

Sawtooths are hit or miss it seems. I know of a grove that doesn’t produce at all, then we got 3 that keep deer and hogs occupied for a month or more. They drop early here, like now and over the rest of this month.

As far as I know if there are worms in them they will not sprout.

Thanks, I ordered a few from Chief River Nursery the other day. I'm anxious to try some of these swamp White Oaks on my property. I could be wrong but my understanding is they don't have to be planted in a swamp

hey zagman how did it work for you

You are correct. That's why I do the float test so I can remove the non-viable ones before I plant. I don't know how that weevil gets in there but it's amazing how many acorns have a weevil.

I love planting acorns & planting swamp whites would be neat to try

We have an oak here that has huge acorns. Big as a wlnut with the hull still on. Is that what your talking about?

To my knowledge I don't think I've seen a swamp white acorn in person, so I am not sure.

Sounds like Burr Oak. Best way to propigate Oaks is let the Squirrel do the planting, I have sprouts all over the place!

Yeah, or you could use the tool I bought, which is literally called "The Squirrel."

The caps on the bur oaks are affixed so darn tight to the acorn. I'm not sure if the Bur oak cap needs to be removed before planting

No, don't store in hot h2o.

I do rinse 'em in h2o though

I read that swamp White Oaks don't necessarily have to be planted in a swamp. I may try some on my dry land to add diversity

No swamp needed. They can tolerate moist soil. I have several in my yard (sent zagman some) which is on a hill.

I’ve also read that swamp white oak acorns have a stem, unlike other white oaks. SWO is one of the “minor” members of the oak family but it’s been getting a lot of attention in urban plantings because it tolerates urban conditions very well.

What's a good kind of tube to use? I am planting some swamp white oaks this Spring.

Of the 15 I planted this spring, at least a dozen are doing well.

Eliminate competition for sunlight, moisture, and nutrients and lots of plants will grow in places you wouldn't normally find them

Yeah. I checked today & I think all 15 are doing well. Remarkable. 'Will see if I can keep the critters away, Rat-Pack.

I gave a few White Oak acorns to a co-worker in the fall and he said they came up nice but then today he told me the rabbits ate them