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Electric cars. Riddle me this. #7674543
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Why can't they have an alternator like our gas cars to keep the batteries charged. No need for charging stations. I think it's all bs to tax us more.

Re: Electric cars. Riddle me this. [Re: Flicker Shad] #7674551
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^^^^^
You are joking, right? That would be perpetual motion.


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Re: Electric cars. Riddle me this. [Re: Flicker Shad] #7674554
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They do, sort of. It's used when braking/decelerating to recover the energy/momentum and put it back into the batteries. But that only recovers part of the energy used for acceleration/cruising. So, there is still an overall drain on the battery.


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Re: Electric cars. Riddle me this. [Re: Flicker Shad] #7674563
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Scary how stupid electric cars are when considered the replacement for internal combustion.


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Re: Electric cars. Riddle me this. [Re: Flicker Shad] #7674564
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John Galt invented this alternator. You didn't deserve it. It still sits in an old abandoned, formerly employee run auto plant.

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Who is John Galt?
Re: Electric cars. Riddle me this. [Re: Flicker Shad] #7674565
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There's a couple concepts out there for that but the problem is you at best end up not gaining any electrical profit. Profit being that you gain the as much or more energy consumed by the vehicle. Also have to remember that EVs have energy efficiency losses just like gasoline vehicles. Not quite as much as gas but still not 100%

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Re: Electric cars. Riddle me this. [Re: Dirt] #7674623
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Originally Posted by Dirt
John Galt invented this alternator. You didn't deserve it. It still sits in an old abandoned, formerly employee run auto plant.


Who is John Galt? laugh grin


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Re: Electric cars. Riddle me this. [Re: waggler] #7674641
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Originally Posted by waggler
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You are joking, right? That would be perpetual motion.

I am serious. I'm not an expert on batteries.

Re: Electric cars. Riddle me this. [Re: lee steinmeyer] #7674644
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Originally Posted by lee steinmeyer
Originally Posted by Dirt
John Galt invented this alternator. You didn't deserve it. It still sits in an old abandoned, formerly employee run auto plant.


Who is John Galt? laugh grin



He was a brilliant engineer at the Twenty-first Century Motor Company ! A peer of Ragnar Danneskjold laugh


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Re: Electric cars. Riddle me this. [Re: Flicker Shad] #7674649
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Originally Posted by Flicker Shad
Originally Posted by waggler
^^^^^
You are joking, right? That would be perpetual motion.

I am serious. I'm not an expert on batteries.


Think about what he said, it should explain itself.

Maybe this will help,
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perpetual_motion

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Re: Electric cars. Riddle me this. [Re: Flicker Shad] #7674652
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Originally Posted by Flicker Shad
Why can't they have an alternator like our gas cars to keep the batteries charged. No need for charging stations. I
think it's all bs to tax us more.





I have said the same thing, If they would have a small tire type object riding against the car tires turning the alternator and you had one on each tire charging the batteries. You may still have to charge the batteries but it would help.

People need to think outside the box. I would think a couple of smart engineers and a couple of machinist they could come up with some thing.

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Re: Electric cars. Riddle me this. [Re: Flicker Shad] #7674654
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Originally Posted by Flicker Shad
Originally Posted by waggler
^^^^^
You are joking, right? That would be perpetual motion.

I am serious. I'm not an expert on batteries.



Energy can't be created or destroyed it just changes form.

It would take more energy to turn the alternator then the alternator can create. You would also lose some in friction, heat lose, and in charging the battery.

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Put a windmill on top of every lektrik car. I hear them windmills are gonna save the planet.


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Re: Electric cars. Riddle me this. [Re: Flicker Shad] #7674672
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I think the disconnect is folks don't realize how much effort/power it takes to turn an alternator when its charging.

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I think the disconnect is that a lot of people don't understand that batteries STORE energy. They produce nothing.
The alternator can produce energy but requires more energy INPUT than it can OUTPUT


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Agreed

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Re: Electric cars. Riddle me this. [Re: Flicker Shad] #7674684
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Re: Electric cars. Riddle me this. [Re: white17] #7674710
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Originally Posted by white17
I think the disconnect is that a lot of people don't understand that batteries STORE energy. They produce nothing.
The alternator can produce energy but requires more energy INPUT than it can OUTPUT

Perfect explanation.

I will never understand why we don't just move on to using propane as all our city buses do here? In the long run they would be less harmful to the environment than the electric cars when you consider the harmful effects to the environment to produce EVs. There are numerous reports showing how little negativity the propane-powered vehicles cause the environment compared to gasoline-powered vehicles. They're certainly more practical that EVs. That is if the real goal is to save the environment.


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