Good points that I hadn't considered hippie.

Do you agree with our support of Ukraine including the billions of dollars we sent hippie?

I absolutely don't know the politics behind this, but NO, I don't think we should've picked a side. I also believe if we had different leadership in this wouldn't have happened to start with.

Think back to Syria and when Trump cleaned up Obama's mess with his red line. Trump told Putin to move his planes/troops, that we were going to bomb...and he did without fanfare.

"In 1949, the prospect of further Communist expansion prompted the United States and 11 other Western nations to form the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO). The Soviet Union and its affiliated Communist nations in Eastern Europe founded a rival alliance, the Warsaw Pact, in 1955. The alignment of nearly every European nation into one of the two opposing camps formalized the political division of the European continent that had taken place since World War II (1939-45). This alignment provided the framework for the military standoff that continued throughout the Cold War (1945-91).'

There is no Soviet Union or Warsaw Pact anymore.

I agree with you 100%.

You can bet that lots of aid $ is being funneled somewhere else and I would bet a good % of the aid weapons are being sold off...meanwhile the whole world suffers from the effects of this 'war'. Right on the heels of suffering from the effects of covid...two man made problems which could have been avoided.

Some are suggesting that the Biden administration may have orchestrated this.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/christ...lines-in-the-baltic-sea/?sh=4bce900a1979

We have an election coming up...and the timing is just impeccable.

The forces behind biden orchestrated much of this war.....

Jkeith- Probably the Poles but with "approval". The ultra-nationalist Poles have no love for either the Russians or Germans. Supposedly the Polish government just hit up the German government for WWII reparations. There is "evidence" that Polish volunteers are fighting with AFU units, and not just a handful here and there. Taking out the underwater NG pipelines would make the 2 land-based NG pipelines from Russia, one through Ukraine and one through Poland, more important to the German and other western European economies. The North Sea can't supply Germany and western Europe with enough NG and its doubtful that the U.S. can ship enough LNG by tanker.

The fall and winter will could be very "interesting"...

American! Who do you think will be responsible for the lives of Ukrainian civilians who were killed by the ukrainian Nazis with weapons that you supply to the Zelensky regime? Who can answer for the lives of Russian soldiers?

Not this American. I didn't vote for cabbage head and his regime.

Y'all didn't have to invade, that's on Putin.....sorry.

How many on here think the Russian (official RF forces, the republic militias, and the contractors such as "Wagner" and the Chechens) casualties are higher than the Ukrainian military...? And give me your best estimate of those tallies...

^ I have no idea....

Nordstream pipelines sabotaged.

https://www.npr.org/2022/09/27/1125401980/nord-stream-leaks-explosions-russia-natural-gas-sabotage

Interesting

Putin will have to answer for the dead Russian soldiers at least he won't have to worry about the call ups running for the border.

My money is on that environmental thug, Greta Thunberg.

That is her neighborhood.

It's too bad the US got out of the energy business.

Whitehouse said regarding this, that this is another reason to rely on renewable energy.
Morons.