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Re: Who should cheat on income taxes? [Re: warrior] #7683148
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Originally Posted by warrior
Define cheating?

If you mean using every applicable tax deduction as per the tax code then it's not cheating. It's playing by the rules.

If it is not reporting taxable income then that's still not cheating, it's a crime.

But, seriously I'd love to hear your definition.


One of the ways to subvert a corrupt and possibly illegitimate government is to deprive it of money, dont fund it. It's out duty to not do anything as citezens we might deem as treasonistic.


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Re: Who should cheat on income taxes? [Re: charles] #7683155
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Re: Who should cheat on income taxes? [Re: trapper les] #7683158
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One of the ways to subvert a corrupt and possibly illegitimate government is to deprive it of money, dont fund it.


This is exactly what the QFS will do. The worldwide corrupt system relies on the fiat dollar. The QFS will put them out of business. Corruption is so out of control we have to look at the big picture. Do you really want the world to keep going in the direction it's going??? This new system is the only answer. It's now or never


Till that day.....
Re: Who should cheat on income taxes? [Re: patrapperbuster] #7683160
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Originally Posted by patrapperbuster



One of the ways to subvert a corrupt and possibly illegitimate government is to deprive it of money, dont fund it.


This is exactly what the QFS will do. The worldwide corrupt system relies on the fiat dollar. The QFS will put them out of business. Corruption is so out of control we have to look at the big picture. Do you really want the world to keep going in the direction it's going??? This new system is the only answer. It's now or never[/quote]


I'll ask again - who and how is this going to happen?

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Re: Who should cheat on income taxes? [Re: charles] #7683162
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Does the citizen exist solely to be squeezed of every cent the federal government can extract?

Re: Who should cheat on income taxes? [Re: charles] #7683176
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Quit whining and pay what you owe,instead of trying to weasel out of your fiduciary duty to your country.
A great American once said-ask not what Biden can do for you but ask what you can do for Biden.

Last edited by Boco; 10/01/22 03:00 PM.

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Re: Who should cheat on income taxes? [Re: trapdog1] #7683183
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This is exactly what the QFS will do. The worldwide corrupt system relies on the fiat dollar. The QFS will put them out of business. Corruption is so out of control we have to look at the big picture. Do you really want the world to keep going in the direction it's going??? This new system is the only answer. It's now or never[/quote]


I'll ask again - who and how is this going to happen?[/quote]


trapdog1 (& everyone)
This will mostly explain the military part. The QFS is probably under an NDA for now. We'll all know about that at the same time.

Go to RUMBLE.COM and in their search bar type "SCOTT McKAY EXPLAINS THE WHITE HAT VICTORY"


Till that day.....
Re: Who should cheat on income taxes? [Re: charles] #7683200
10/01/22 04:12 PM
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The Fourteenth Amendment to the US Constitution guarantees us equal protection of the laws. I think all Americans should have to pay exactly the same amount of Federal taxes, state taxes by state and local taxes by the locality they live. That would be fair. It would also be a very easy system to watch over.

People unable to pay their taxes should have to work them off at the Federal minimum wage.

Taxes should be low and not over burdensome.

Most of the governments revenue should come from the sale and or lease of government assets, including grazing rights, timber rights and mineral rights.

Keith

Re: Who should cheat on income taxes? [Re: Boco] #7683205
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Originally Posted by Boco
Quit whining and pay what you owe,instead of trying to weasel out of your fiduciary duty to your country.
A great American once said-ask not what Biden can do for you but ask what you can do for Biden.

Bahaha. I almost spit my coffee out. That's pretty funny.

Re: Who should cheat on income taxes? [Re: patrapperbuster] #7683214
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Originally Posted by patrapperbuster



One of the ways to subvert a corrupt and possibly illegitimate government is to deprive it of money, dont fund it.


This is exactly what the QFS will do. The worldwide corrupt system relies on the fiat dollar. The QFS will put them out of business. Corruption is so out of control we have to look at the big picture. Do you really want the world to keep going in the direction it's going??? This new system is the only answer. It's now or never[/quote]

How does it put them out of business when they receive 100% of all tax money? Reduced rate or not, you said it would all go to the feds...what am I missing

Re: Who should cheat on income taxes? [Re: Boco] #7683216
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Originally Posted by Boco
Quit whining and pay what you owe,instead of trying to weasel out of your fiduciary duty to your country.
A great American once said-ask not what Biden can do for you but ask what you can do for Biden.

You're tolerance for government sticking its nose in your business doesn't apply across the board. Or the border.

Re: Who should cheat on income taxes? [Re: charles] #7683221
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Taxes don't matter anyway they just print as much as they need....

Re: Who should cheat on income taxes? [Re: charles] #7683234
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The way I se it, when they are not working for us, I won't work for them.


Let's go Brandon

"Shall not comply" with morons who don't understand "shall not infringe."
Re: Who should cheat on income taxes? [Re: charles] #7683237
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Taxation without representation
Now where have I heard that before?

Re: Who should cheat on income taxes? [Re: midlander] #7683244
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Originally Posted by midlander
Originally Posted by Ridge Runner1960
taxes are voluntary look it up! why do they not throw rich folks in jail for not paying them (IE jesse jackson)


Stop paying them for a few years and let us know how that works out for you smile


I did just that. When the draft dodger bill clinton was president I didn't file or pay any taxes for three years (was self employed). a few years later they came after me. with interest and penalties I ended up paying double the amount I owed.

Re: Who should cheat on income taxes? [Re: Marty] #7683273
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Originally Posted by Marty
Originally Posted by danny clifton
Tax structure needs to change. Spending by government needs reined in. Big R and Big D both spend money like a drunken college girl on spring break with daddy's credit card.

You pay income tax on money you earn or get from investments. Then with that whats left you pay more tax. Tax on real estate, tax on vehicles, plus tax on everything you buy. Tax on utilities tax on phones. Tax to hunt fish or trap. Tax on fuel.

government is completely out of control.


^this^



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Hidden taxes on everything , local , state , federal ......the raping of working Americans


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Re: Who should cheat on income taxes? [Re: jabNE] #7683309
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Originally Posted by jabNE
I know taxes are high, but it is comforting to know we have modern fighter jets, smart bombs, other high tech military might and I know that can’t come cheap.
I do like having police forces, good roads, schools, water systems and treatment systems.
Granted I do believe there is a ton of waste of tax money too, but there are some good things out there we benefit from.
Jim

As to what I made bold, I am calling BS. The roads are pathetic and the schools, well, I don't have to say anything about them. I don't know anything about the water systems and treatment since I did not choose to live in a place that I can not pee off my porch. I have a well and a septic system.

I do believe that there should be a flat tax on income and nothing else (from 1 to infinity). Why should I pay tax on the money I earn, then pay tax on it when I spend it? They keep inventing new taxes so they can spend more.


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Re: Who should cheat on income taxes? [Re: KeithC] #7683357
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Originally Posted by KeithC
The Fourteenth Amendment to the US Constitution guarantees us equal protection of the laws. I think all Americans should have to pay exactly the same amount of Federal taxes, state taxes by state and local taxes by the locality they live. That would be fair. It would also be a very easy system to watch over.

People unable to pay their taxes should have to work them off at the Federal minimum wage.

Taxes should be low and not over burdensome.

Most of the governments revenue should come from the sale and or lease of government assets, including grazing rights, timber rights and mineral rights.

Keith

Really ? I am not positive that the government should have any assets.


"Those who hammer their guns into plowshares will plow for those who do not."
Re: Who should cheat on income taxes? [Re: 330-Trapper] #7683409
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Originally Posted by 330-Trapper
Originally Posted by yotetrapper30
If we had a flat sales tax, no one could cheat.

It would bring better;
But someone would find a way- to cheat.

It's called barter


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Re: Who should cheat on income taxes? [Re: danny clifton] #7683452
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Originally Posted by danny clifton
If you pay 25% in income taxes, (working for wages) State, federal, social security, and all the other payroll deductions states have dreamed up, then pay a 10% sales tax on everything you purchase with the 75%, , lose 4-5% or more from your savings due to inflation every year, lose buying power every year to inflation, see tax dollars sent to foreign countries, see tax dollars given to people to lazy to support them selves, see tax dollars given to people who refuse to pay back student loans, see politicians go from being broke bartenders to wealthy on a government salary and kickbacks, see immigrants get tax exemptions and business loans not available to the children of the people who provided the money with their tax's, on and on and on and on and on and on........

The question should probably be - Why do people keep paying their tax's instead of hanging politicians from overpasses?



^^Um this is my answer too :-)

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