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Re: 6.5 needsmore [Re: Wolfdog91] #7689746
10/11/22 06:23 AM
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If theres an animal in N. America I need to kill or want to hunt I have the proper tool no matter the season.

Firearm manufacturers need to sell guns. To do that they pay gun writers and magazines for articles. Just cause it doesn't say AD at the top of the page doesn't mean its not.

If the tool you choose makes you happy stick with it. What I think of it or what the blow hard down the street from you thinks of it, is unimportant.

There are people who choose not to learn where the bullet should go, do not put in enough practice and even some for whom practice wont help. If you ever seen military firearm training in boot camp some people just cant shoot.

Who cares? It doesn't make you special or any better of a human because you practice and put in the time. Even on those TV reality shows a successful hunt is not the difference between survival and starving.

A guy that shoots and hunts poorly is still less likely to support a gun grabbing politician.


Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
Re: 6.5 needsmore [Re: Wolfdog91] #7689752
10/11/22 06:30 AM
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If you'd hear the amount of shooting that goes on a day or two right before Deer season around here from people either sighting in their gun or taking their first shots since last year checking the gun, it's no wonder people miss Deer.


There comes a point liberalism has gone too far, we're past that point.
Re: 6.5 needsmore [Re: Wolfdog91] #7689780
10/11/22 07:41 AM
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When the Creed first came out it was pushed as a long range cartridge for guys who were shooting steel or paper out to 1000 yards which it worked ok for. Problem was the bullets that are used for long range shooting don’t make good hunting loads, poor performance on game was the norm until guys started handloading the cartridge with the proper bullets.

Re: 6.5 needsmore [Re: TheYouthTrapper] #7689796
10/11/22 08:03 AM
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Originally Posted by TheYouthTrapper
Originally Posted by Wolfdog91

O boy you mentioned shooting past 100yd.....


Did I open the wrong can of worms?


Could have. Don't you know no one need so shoot past 50 yards or any thing besides a 30/30 to kill a deer.

Re: 6.5 needsmore [Re: Wolfdog91] #7689837
10/11/22 09:03 AM
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I am very happy with my $300 savage axis 6.5 creedmore....


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Until Lambs Become Lions
Re: 6.5 needsmore [Re: Wolfdog91] #7689842
10/11/22 09:11 AM
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If I was gonna build a mid-range, 400-500 yard open country (wind) deer/antelope rifle, a short action 6.5mm would most certainly be on the short list.

And since the 6.5 Creedmoor is top of the heap when it comes to reloading components and ammo selection, probably that one.

Re: 6.5 needsmore [Re: Wolfdog91] #7689843
10/11/22 09:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Wolfdog91
Why do I have the feeling no one is gonna understand what the videos are even about....

[Linked Image]


Is that Eric Cortina? Needs More eh? So not about the 6.5 but all about after market mods?

Perhaps it would help of somebody (perhaps them) had explained what they were up to, or perhaps the Needs More is a series that is understood?


Easy to vote your way into socialism, but impossible to vote your way out of it.
Re: 6.5 needsmore [Re: Wolfdog91] #7689910
10/11/22 11:14 AM
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OK, had a chance to watch all those, and yes, that was Eric. Interesting that he could take an inexpensive Rem 700 and go from a 3 MOA gun to sub MOA and was not hard doing it. I'm working on a 6mm Rem and have done somewhat the same. Factory wood stock now has free floated barrel and action was pillar bedded. Also has a new Timney trigger. Load ladders ready to go.

As one who started reloading recently, with focus on loading for accuracy, one of the most interesting theories I've run into is the issue of seating depth. Seems to be near dogma that guys want to chase the lands. Eric put out a series of videos that ran counter to that. His use of factory ammo in these videos proved the same. You don't need to. What matters more is timing of the bullet to barrel harmonics for the load in question. He does it in these videos with a harmonics barrel tuner. He did it in the other videos by altering seating depth of bullet......but far off the lands.

Second thing that came to me about lack of need to load to the lands was how many gun makers offer a 1 MOA or less accuracy guarantee, contingent only on use of factory match ammo. All of that is loaded to SAMMI specs and none of it customized to the gun.


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Re: 6.5 needsmore [Re: Wolfdog91] #7689918
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Another one of these threads. I don't there's ever been a caliber that has caused more people's heads to explode on here

Re: 6.5 needsmore [Re: Wolfdog91] #7689919
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6.5 or not the video is all about the simple things that can make a rifle really shoot

they just needed something with real potential for accuracy to use as a benchmark


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Re: 6.5 needsmore [Re: Providence Farm] #7690189
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Originally Posted by Providence Farm
Could have. Don't you know no one need so shoot past 50 yards or any thing besides a 30/30 to kill a deer.




I don't deer hunt, but that's why I said in my original post that I had no reason to practice a 625-yard shot because it's unethical.

Re: 6.5 needsmore [Re: hippie] #7690193
10/11/22 06:12 PM
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Originally Posted by hippie
If you'd hear the amount of shooting that goes on a day or two right before Deer season around here from people either sighting in their gun or taking their first shots since last year checking the gun, it's no wonder people miss Deer.



They waste bullets sighting their gun in every year?!? whistle

Re: 6.5 needsmore [Re: TheYouthTrapper] #7690194
10/11/22 06:15 PM
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Originally Posted by TheYouthTrapper
Originally Posted by Providence Farm
Could have. Don't you know no one need so shoot past 50 yards or any thing besides a 30/30 to kill a deer.




I don't deer hunt, but that's why I said in my original post that I had no reason to practice a 625-yard shot because it's unethical.

not if your shooting the enemy

shooting 625 yards is about learning how to do it and how to do it in conditions less than ideal. like a gusting 20mph full value cross wind.

It is your Ethical duty as an American to know how to own your 1/4 mile 440 yards


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