Re: Businesses Closing Due To Lack of Workers
[Re: Trapper7]
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11/03/22 11:01 PM
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If you have been at the same employer for 17 years you must have advanced within the company and have a good position? It will be hard to start a new job on day one with the same benefits and remuneration you have built up over 17 years at the current position.
Forget that fear of gravity-get a little savagery in your life.
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Re: Businesses Closing Due To Lack of Workers
[Re: Trapper7]
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11/03/22 11:06 PM
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The gov't will most likely increase legal immigration to fill vacant jobs. The rich fat cats will demand it.
Forget that fear of gravity-get a little savagery in your life.
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Re: Businesses Closing Due To Lack of Workers
[Re: Trapper7]
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11/03/22 11:10 PM
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Cant find qualified people for jobs is what management tells me when they try to hire someone. I guess them liberal arts degrees are really starting to pay off instead of going to vocational school like most did my age.
“If there must be trouble, let it be in my day, that my child may have peace.” — Thomas Paine
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Re: Businesses Closing Due To Lack of Workers
[Re: MattLA]
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11/03/22 11:37 PM
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I think its a combination of things, but for food workers to me the main issue is that just generally they dont charge enough. This includes fast food, sit in restaurants and the like, they all have been charging way too little for serving food.
How much would it take to get any of you to slave over a hot stove, oven, fryer and the works today? I bet most would refuse, but to me its one of the most under appreciated things in the USA. If they charged more, their workers could have been paid more for a long time.
The only thing I do know is that if you have a good employee, you better take care of them above and beyond and not try to just milk em dry. As someone who's spent 20+ years in the food service industry, both as an associate and as management, I do not agree with you. Most of the companies I worked at were starting at more than minimum wage for employees that weren't worth $5 an hour. If you can't make change for a dollar without calling a manager over every single time (despite managers trying to teach you the 2nd grade math), you probably don't deserve $12/hour. If you're scheduled 5 six hour days a week, call in sick 2 days, show up late one, leave early another and complain you can't leave early the fifth, you probably don't deserve $12/hr. If you whine to management daily about "not getting enough hours", but refuse to ever come in early, work late, or God forbid, come in on one of your numerous days off, you probably don't deserve $12/hr. If you spend every minute that your manager is not in direct sight of you on TikTok and cannot get your simple duties done without constant urging from management, you probably don't deserve $12/hr. If you are given two tasks taking less than half an hour to complete, and cannot manage to do so in an 8 hour shift, you probably don't deserve $12/hr. Now I will say this... when I worked in the food service industry, most companies had 4-6 stellar employees out of 25 or so and YES I do believe those employees should be paid more, as it's those couple employees per shift that make the whole store run.
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Re: Businesses Closing Due To Lack of Workers
[Re: yotetrapper30]
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11/03/22 11:43 PM
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As someone who's spent 20+ years in the food service industry, both as an associate and as management, I do not agree with you. Most of the companies I worked at were starting at more than minimum wage for employees that weren't worth $5 an hour.
If you can't make change for a dollar without calling a manager over every single time (despite managers trying to teach you the 2nd grade math), you probably don't deserve $12/hour.
If you're scheduled 5 six hour days a week, call in sick 2 days, show up late one, leave early another and complain you can't leave early the fifth, you probably don't deserve $12/hr.
If you whine to management daily about "not getting enough hours", but refuse to ever come in early, work late, or God forbid, come in on one of your numerous days off, you probably don't deserve $12/hr.
If you spend every minute that your manager is not in direct sight of you on TikTok and cannot get your simple duties done without constant urging from management, you probably don't deserve $12/hr.
If you are given two tasks taking less than half an hour to complete, and cannot manage to do so in an 8 hour shift, you probably don't deserve $12/hr.
Now I will say this... when I worked in the food service industry, most companies had 4-6 stellar employees out of 25 or so and YES I do believe those employees should be paid more, as it's those couple employees per shift that make the whole store run.
You totally nailed it.
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Re: Businesses Closing Due To Lack of Workers
[Re: Wanna Be]
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11/03/22 11:43 PM
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No one wants to stay at a job long enough to advance. It took me 22 years to be the senior man in my title and I just celebrated my 24th year with the company. Had plans to retire at 60 with 30 years, but with the new title I got a couple of years ago they may see me walking around with a walker, lol. The higher you go, the less physical work there is. Company vehicle, long commutes between jobs for my podcasts I listen to, only outside work now is waking into a business or out of and back to my vehicle. They’d have to make me a really good offer to leave. That sounds awful.
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Re: Businesses Closing Due To Lack of Workers
[Re: MattLA]
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11/04/22 07:18 AM
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@Catch22 Are you willing to pay to know how I did it? Capitalism is awesome.
I'll remember that if you ever ask for help/advice here. If you worked for the Fed and quit at 31 set for life, that wasn't capitalism, that was sucking off the taxpayer udder. If you made money in investing, you should probably write books and hold seminars, cause you must be a genius.
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Re: Businesses Closing Due To Lack of Workers
[Re: Trapper7]
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11/04/22 07:34 AM
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And the people grumbled.... and grumbled... and grumbled some more. As the food came in free of charge. And the route was mapped out for their prosperity. Yet, still the people grumbled... and grumbled... and grumbled some more. YET, a few made things happen. I thought humans were getting bigger, stronger, faster, smarter, and leaving all those attributes nature doesn't prefer behind? Along the progressive trail? Ah, nope. Same old, same old. The people are still mostly all grumblers with a FEW making it happen. Suit up do'ers! Make it happen! We got this. The grumblers? Smile and wave.  Smile and wave. Blessings, Mark
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Re: Businesses Closing Due To Lack of Workers
[Re: Trapper7]
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11/04/22 07:48 AM
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It is not going to be a jobless recession like in '81.
Who is John Galt?
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Re: Businesses Closing Due To Lack of Workers
[Re: Trapper7]
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11/04/22 08:00 AM
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In the u.s a labor shortage is spun as record low unemployment.
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Re: Businesses Closing Due To Lack of Workers
[Re: Marty]
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11/04/22 08:10 AM
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food delivery drivers want 50% tips... I laugh at restaurants like Pita Pit and Subway. They jacked prices up a solid 20 percent and now they ask for a tip when you pay with a card. Not a chance.
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Re: Businesses Closing Due To Lack of Workers
[Re: yotetrapper30]
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11/04/22 08:21 AM
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I think its a combination of things, but for food workers to me the main issue is that just generally they dont charge enough. This includes fast food, sit in restaurants and the like, they all have been charging way too little for serving food.
How much would it take to get any of you to slave over a hot stove, oven, fryer and the works today? I bet most would refuse, but to me its one of the most under appreciated things in the USA. If they charged more, their workers could have been paid more for a long time.
The only thing I do know is that if you have a good employee, you better take care of them above and beyond and not try to just milk em dry. As someone who's spent 20+ years in the food service industry, both as an associate and as management, I do not agree with you. Most of the companies I worked at were starting at more than minimum wage for employees that weren't worth $5 an hour. If you can't make change for a dollar without calling a manager over every single time (despite managers trying to teach you the 2nd grade math), you probably don't deserve $12/hour. If you're scheduled 5 six hour days a week, call in sick 2 days, show up late one, leave early another and complain you can't leave early the fifth, you probably don't deserve $12/hr. If you whine to management daily about "not getting enough hours", but refuse to ever come in early, work late, or God forbid, come in on one of your numerous days off, you probably don't deserve $12/hr. If you spend every minute that your manager is not in direct sight of you on TikTok and cannot get your simple duties done without constant urging from management, you probably don't deserve $12/hr. If you are given two tasks taking less than half an hour to complete, and cannot manage to do so in an 8 hour shift, you probably don't deserve $12/hr. Now I will say this... when I worked in the food service industry, most companies had 4-6 stellar employees out of 25 or so and YES I do believe those employees should be paid more, as it's those couple employees per shift that make the whole store run. You sir are 100% correct even down to the Ultra Maga. This Covid reaction has killed the country. I’ve never seen so many completely worthless young people.
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