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Hunt lic sales & deer harvest for PA #7718339
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Over 800,000 general hunting licenses sold every year

Deer harvest (buck & doe) averages over 400,000 per year, over a 10 year average

Re: Hunt lic sales & deer harvest for PA [Re: patrapperbuster] #7718606
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How many road kills are there, I bet more than the hunter take.....jk


Free people are not equal. Equal people are not free. Whats supposed to be ain't always is.
Re: Hunt lic sales & deer harvest for PA [Re: patrapperbuster] #7718625
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Used to be a million deer hunters in the woods the first day of buck. Now, last estimate I read about 400,000. Camps in the northern woods were swamped with hunters in the old days, at least for the first two days. Last time I was in the northern deer camp maybe 10 percent of the original numbers and most of them are gone after the first day.

Re: Hunt lic sales & deer harvest for PA [Re: patrapperbuster] #7718642
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Deer camps/hunting are DYING!.
I'm sure licenses could be free and #'s would still decline.
No kid recruitment. Sad.


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Re: Hunt lic sales & deer harvest for PA [Re: patrapperbuster] #7718760
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The youth of any sport is it's future

Re: Hunt lic sales & deer harvest for PA [Re: patrapperbuster] #7718766
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Lots of todays Pa buck hunters are done in archery season.
Compare these #s to older stats, and a lot less still hunters today
due to counting rack points,
= you can't get there from here.
Like it or lump it, everything changes.
Compare back to depression days for a whole other aspect.

There's a history documentary in this.

I remember elders jumping at the chance to come along just to
cook or process or just be there.
I now see what they saw.

Good luck sitting on stand.





Re: Hunt lic sales & deer harvest for PA [Re: bucksnbears] #7718785
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Originally Posted by bucksnbears
Deer camps/hunting are DYING!.
I'm sure licenses could be free and #'s would still decline.
No kid recruitment. Sad.

Grew up in PA,1st day of deer season was a holiday. 22 kids in my class, 20 hunted. Hunting club bordering our farm had 50 members and all hunted the 1st full week, and some hunted all 2 weeks. One of the older hunters grandson got a deer a few years ago and wanted to go home at 10:00 am because he "got" his deer. The grandfather said we are here for the week, help other members gut/drag deer or drive. The kid was not happy!

Re: Hunt lic sales & deer harvest for PA [Re: patrapperbuster] #7718803
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Around here they have over hunted the public land and their isn`t much their to hunt now days.They also don`t select cut the timber anymore on gamelands,seems like they do small clearcuts instead.A lot of the timber around here is wide open hardwoods that you can see 2 or 3 hundred yards in.I hunt all public land and if I was a kid and had to do the same I would find another sport for sure.I do most of my hunting in Ohio now days for deer.They manage the deer much better in Ohio.Only allowed to harvest one doe per year on public land.Our gamecommission is good at manageing money now days.

Re: Hunt lic sales & deer harvest for PA [Re: mike mason] #7718815
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Originally Posted by mike mason
Originally Posted by bucksnbears
Deer camps/hunting are DYING!.
I'm sure licenses could be free and #'s would still decline.
No kid recruitment. Sad.

Grew up in PA,1st day of deer season was a holiday. 22 kids in my class, 20 hunted. Hunting club bordering our farm had 50 members and all hunted the 1st full week, and some hunted all 2 weeks. One of the older hunters grandson got a deer a few years ago and wanted to go home at 10:00 am because he "got" his deer. The grandfather said we are here for the week, help other members gut/drag deer or drive. The kid was not happy!


That's sad. I remember going to deer camp with my dad... it wasn't a big camp, usually not more than 6 hunters but I enjoyed the atmosphere of camp as much or more than the actual hunting. If I wasn't hunting deer, I was hunting grouse or squirrel (often after lunch before the evening hunt) or just rambling through the hills imagining spots to set traps, lol. I couldn't imagine getting a deer and wanting to go home! I hated when it was time to leave.


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Re: Hunt lic sales & deer harvest for PA [Re: Wright Brothers] #7718825
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Originally Posted by Wright Brothers
Lots of todays Pa buck hunters are done in archery season.





And the rest are down here.

You can't hardly swing a sika deer without hitting a PA'er!
87% have a GoPro on their head, filming for " their channel".

Re: Hunt lic sales & deer harvest for PA [Re: patrapperbuster] #7718936
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I know that there are a lot of reasons for lower numbers but I remember a discussion on here about the 99? year lease ran out where a lot of families had a deer camp on and they lost it. I think it was a utilities company that gave the lease. I wonder if that didn't impact the PA hunters and would like to hear from y'all over there about it. It was a very interesting thread.


I wonder if tap dancers walk into a room, look at the floor, and think, I'd tap that. I wonder about things.....
Re: Hunt lic sales & deer harvest for PA [Re: patrapperbuster] #7718953
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The 99 year leases I know of around here are on state forest land. I have a couple friends with camps on Tuscarora state forest land with such a lease and haven't heard them say anything about losing it. Could be in some areas tho?

Re: Hunt lic sales & deer harvest for PA [Re: patrapperbuster] #7718957
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I think that the antler restriction, school influence being negative, welfare giving everything you could possibly want and the computer all contribute to the lack of active young people. They are bored sitting a tree stand, when it was any budy everyone put on drives that was fun, everyone participated even mom and sisters. But not now, to hunt successfully you have to have money, belong to a camp with a lot of land put in feed plots or rent land your self......jk


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Re: Hunt lic sales & deer harvest for PA [Re: patrapperbuster] #7718961
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I'm not sure hippie but I remember a thread quite a few years ago about a big land lease that expired over there. Utilities co or maybe a timber outfit?? People were having to move their belongings and some were tearing down their cabins.

I also remember where some said that after the lease was up the Company or maybe the State limited access in some way. Maybe it was localized and didn't impact the whole State. I just thought it was interesting, we don't have anything like that here.


I wonder if tap dancers walk into a room, look at the floor, and think, I'd tap that. I wonder about things.....
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Antler restrictions was the final nail in our camp as far as us hunting all week like we use to. It wasn't that we can't count, it was a combination of land getting posted because of the doe killing that came with the restrictions on top of hardly anyone killing a Buck.

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Originally Posted by jk
How many road kills are there, I bet more than the hunter take.....jk


Easily equal too, Id bet more...... unreal the number of deer killed on highways, and that is only the ones you see. Add into it the number of deer killed illegally, predators... Im surprised deer numbers are what they are.

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C22 I think I missed that topic.
Wifes Uncle bought the tail end of a hundo yr lease.
It was through railroad and said to be a dynomite shack.
Great times with family there, hunt, fish, trap, swim, and just well picnic, I guess.
Then got sold to Fam friend and we all still had permission.
Then sold again and we don't dare roll up unanounced.
I proposed to my wife there, it's what us young punks did back then.

One my other base camps was in Forest Co. It was already said how it changed.
To be fair though, there was a time you could barely drive
in low light without smashing into a deer.
That got cured.

Books should be printed on this while some that lived then are still around.
When a 3 point was a trophy for the working man who paid the way.





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Originally Posted by Wright Brothers
C22 I think I missed that topic.
Wifes Uncle bought the tail end of a hundo yr lease.
It was through railroad and said to be a dynomite shack.
Great times with family there, hunt, fish, trap, swim, and just well picnic, I guess.
Then got sold to Fam friend and we all still had permission.
Then sold again and we don't dare roll up unanounced.
I proposed to my wife there, it's what us young punks did back then.

One my other base camps was in Forest Co. It was already said how it changed.
To be fair though, there was a time you could barely drive
in low light without smashing into a deer.
That got cured.

Books should be printed on this while some that lived then are still around.
When a 3 point was a trophy for the working man who paid the way.

I agree 100% WB. Although I'm in Ohio, just like in PA and everywhere we are feeling this. There are a ton of reasons for less hunters and less game but some imo are set up by design. We had a hunting gang that would put on drives and we had a ball. But we never had a deer camp like y'all over there and I love hearing the stories about it. If someone wrote a book about it, I'd buy it! Maybe someone will take the Foxfire approach and go around and gather stories, that'd be cool as heck.


I wonder if tap dancers walk into a room, look at the floor, and think, I'd tap that. I wonder about things.....
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I never belonged to a camp however I was always welcome at 1 whose members bought the property off my grandmother in the late 50ís early 60ís, in the 70ís and 80ís growing up I loved being there to the point we often stayed there in hunting season as they were up for the entire 2 weeks and then again in flintlock, as with the members of the camp those days are gone. Trying to keep my daughters interested in hunting whilst not seeing any deer has become a challenge, they both still go some but mostly just to please me I believe. On a real bright note(not) I found three dead deer Saturday and Sunday, two hit by car next to our property and 1 not sure what, all buck.


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But we never had a deer camp like y'all over there and I love hearing the stories about it. If someone wrote a book about it, I'd buy it! Maybe someone will take the Foxfire approach and go around and gather stories, that'd be cool as heck.[/quote]


Look into the back issues of PA GAME NEWS. Lots of good stories about camps, etc.
The BEAR CAMP thread on here listed a post with the link. I think it was 'PAGAMENEWSONLINE'

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