Re: Random Drug Screening
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11/28/22 03:02 PM
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What is the chance we can get a politician to do away with this? It shouldn't be up to the government to tell business whether they can drug test. I, for one, welcome drug testing. It lessons the odds that I have my safety and possible life in the hands of some idiot druggie that obviously couldn't care less about his own life, let alone mine. I like to go home at the end of the day, not the hospital or the morgue. Pretty simple, if you don't like drug testing, find a job where they don't have it. I use to be onboard with this opinion however, if you are working a job and someone is impaired, what’s the difficulty in saying, “I ain’t working with Johnny Joint for lunch because my safety would be in jeopardy?” There isn’t a company out there that would dismiss someone’s safety concern this day and age.
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Re: Random Drug Screening
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Does any of this random testing include prescription drug testing ?
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Re: Random Drug Screening
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Does any of this random testing include prescription drug testing ?
You have to disclose any meds you are taking. The sample gets atomized and the test counts ppb. If you are abusing your script, it will show in the count.
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Re: Random Drug Screening
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11/28/22 04:07 PM
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What I’ve seen is most that don’t want it can’t pass it ! Just saying I think they should be able to search your house and cars without a warrant.Hey,if you haven't anything to hide.Isnt that right jbyrd?
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Re: Random Drug Screening
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11/28/22 04:14 PM
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Test all the people on the public dole first.
We could save billions in benefit costs.
Never happen , but it's a great idea.
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Re: Random Drug Screening
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What I’ve seen is most that don’t want it can’t pass it ! Just saying I think they should be able to search your house and cars without a warrant.Hey,if you haven't anything to hide.Isnt that right jbyrd? Democrat's wet dream right there.
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Re: Random Drug Screening
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11/28/22 04:26 PM
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What I’ve seen is most that don’t want it can’t pass it ! Just saying i dont want it and i can pass it any day. i refrain from use because of it, but i dont feel pot has any more lasting effect on job performance than alcohol does. what i do on friday or saturday night has no bearing on work performance monday morning.
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Re: Random Drug Screening
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11/28/22 04:37 PM
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When they first started talking about it I worried about false positives. I have yet to meet anybody I believed say they got a false positive. It is just another feel good ineffective money waster though.
That guy in the back row of the Petro on I65 just south of Elizabethtown KY, up all night smoking meth with a couple of the fancy ladies is out there. His electronic log says he was shut down for 10 hours even though he never slept. In his shaving kit is a bottle of artificial pee he bought online to pass the drug test. He sticks it down in his under wear a couple hours before he goes in for his drug test so temperature is good. If he doesnt have time for that he warms it on the defroster then sticks it in his pants so it will adjust faster.
Eventually he will crash and get checked then lose his license. Unfortunately all to often Johnny crack head lives and some mom with kids dies.
Meanwhile the preponderance of guys just earning an honest living have to put up with electronic logs and drug tests even though they are not the problem.
Just like gun control doesn't do anything to alleviate violent crime, electronic logs and drug tests are not getting deadbeats out of big trucks.
Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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Re: Random Drug Screening
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When they first started talking about it I worried about false positives. I have yet to meet anybody I believed say they got a false positive. It is just another feel good ineffective money waster though.
That guy in the back row of the Petro on I65 just south of Elizabethtown KY, up all night smoking meth with a couple of the fancy ladies is out there. His electronic log says he was shut down for 10 hours even though he never slept. In his shaving kit is a bottle of artificial pee he bought online to pass the drug test. He sticks it down in his under wear a couple hours before he goes in for his drug test so temperature is good. If he doesnt have time for that he warms it on the defroster then sticks it in his pants so it will adjust faster.
Eventually he will crash and get checked then lose his license. Unfortunately all to often Johnny crack head lives and some mom with kids dies.
Meanwhile the preponderance of guys just earning an honest living have to put up with electronic logs and drug tests even though they are not the problem.
Just like gun control doesn't do anything to alleviate violent crime, electronic logs and drug tests are not getting deadbeats out of big trucks. i do not in any way condone drug use while driving/working. my point is, a brain surgeon could smoke a joint right before doing his job & docs dont get whiz quized. there are a lot more sensitive jobs than guiding a truck down the road that arent subject to mandatory drug testing. im not talking about hard drugs or road dope that keeps your eyes open all night, just weed.
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Re: Random Drug Screening
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What I’ve seen is most that don’t want it can’t pass it ! Just saying i dont want it and i can pass it any day. i refrain from use because of it, but i dont feel pot has any more lasting effect on job performance than alcohol does. what i do on friday or saturday night has no bearing on work performance monday morning. There are a lot more drugs out there than pot that they check for.
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Re: Random Drug Screening
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DOT is a 10 panel screening, cocaine, marijuana, PCP, amphetamines, opiates, benzodiazepines, barbiturates, methadone, propoxyphene, and quaaludes.
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Re: Random Drug Screening
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11/28/22 08:32 PM
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Life comes with risk. At what point does giving up liberty in the hope of reducing risk, make you a slave? At what point do you realize that risk is not being reduced and your just giving up liberty?
Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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Re: Random Drug Screening
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11/28/22 08:33 PM
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I can pass a valid drug test any day of the year.....bring it.
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