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Re: The Railroad [Re: charles] #7730809
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Originally Posted by charles
Before I make my decision on the worker's request, I'd like to see their present benefit schedule. They may or may not already have ample employee benefits.



I THINK their main complaint is time off.
They get something like 30 days per year, but using any takes a week or two advanced request, and are basically on call 24/7 the rest of the time.

But it might've been a RR Union Thug tell me that, lol.

Re: The Railroad [Re: HobbieTrapper] #7730861
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This is what happens when you rely on Gov't money. They are highly subsidized and regulated.

Re: The Railroad [Re: HobbieTrapper] #7730866
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Re: The Railroad [Re: Boco] #7730868
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Originally Posted by Boco
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Neutered in this case by subsidies taken.

Re: The Railroad [Re: lee steinmeyer] #7730876
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Originally Posted by lee steinmeyer
Ol sniffy passed it on to the congress, I saw yesterday. That way he can claim he was behind the unions all the way. How can any normal thinking person think that he is worth a 25% increase in his wages. Talk about inflationary!

Lee that 25 percent is over 5 and half year period!!!! We have not had a raise in 7 years ....that figures out under 5 percent a year and inflation is 8.3 percent this year....not even keeping up with inflation

Re: The Railroad [Re: HobbieTrapper] #7730880
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On call 24..7 holidays weekends and no sick pay....it's not wages that is holding up the contract..we won't sick pay and not forced to use vacation to go to the doctor

Re: The Railroad [Re: HobbieTrapper] #7730899
11/30/22 03:12 PM
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Sounds like you are getting the shaft, SHUT IT DOWN, for at least six months. lol


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Re: The Railroad [Re: HobbieTrapper] #7730904
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Can't union has no leverage Congress just sends back to work within hours

Re: The Railroad [Re: HobbieTrapper] #7730908
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What authority does Congress have to settle a strike? Amtrak I can see. But with Union Pacific? Burlington Northern? Norfolk Southern? Those are private outfits are they not?

Re: The Railroad [Re: HayDay] #7730911
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Originally Posted by HayDay
What authority does Congress have to settle a strike? Amtrak I can see. But with Union Pacific? Burlington Northern? Norfolk Southern? Those are private outfits are they not?


Maybe they need to visit the Capital.


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Re: The Railroad [Re: HobbieTrapper] #7730924
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Originally Posted by HobbieTrapper
I’m not sure if I should be worried or excited that the country can be crippled by shutting down the railroad.

How about you?



The railroad is absolutely vital. The railroad shutting down could be an extremely serious matter for Americans if it isn’t resolved quickly, especially after the supply chain issues and price increases we’ve experienced over the last few years. With diesel prices and trucker shortages, reduced barges due to low water levels, and other shipping problems, the last thing we need is the railroad getting shut down. Think about how much grain, oil, chemicals, vehicles, and more is moved efficiently by rail.


We need rail to keep working smoothly.

Re: The Railroad [Re: HobbieTrapper] #7730928
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Does the Mafia still control much of the Railroad work force? I've heard lots of interesting old stories about what used to go on in Ohio, especially around Marion. 2 of my great grandfathers were railroad bosses and my grandfather's first cousin, who I went to Sicily with, was in the railroad for life.

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Re: The Railroad [Re: HobbieTrapper] #7730929
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Originally Posted by HobbieTrapper


Maybe they need to visit the Capital.


They'll never get a permit to lay a track through the petunias in the Capitol garden.


Let's go Brandon

"Shall not comply" with morons who don't understand "shall not infringe."
Re: The Railroad [Re: Aix sponsa] #7730931
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Originally Posted by Aix sponsa
Originally Posted by HobbieTrapper
I’m not sure if I should be worried or excited that the country can be crippled by shutting down the railroad.

How about you?



The railroad is absolutely vital. The railroad shutting down could be an extremely serious matter for Americans if it isn’t resolved quickly, especially after the supply chain issues and price increases we’ve experienced over the last few years. With diesel prices and trucker shortages, reduced barges due to low water levels, and other shipping problems, the last thing we need is the railroad getting shut down. Think about how much grain, oil, chemicals, vehicles, and more is moved efficiently by rail.


We need rail to keep working smoothly.




Until we don’t.


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Re: The Railroad [Re: foxhunter52] #7730937
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Originally Posted by foxhunter52
You'd think the Biden administration would be doing back flips over having a strike. Their not burning diesel fuel. To heck with economy.


Who owns a lot of the railroad? The same guy who owns most of the democrats.

Re: The Railroad [Re: HobbieTrapper] #7730945
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Re: The Railroad [Re: HayDay] #7730950
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Originally Posted by HayDay
What authority does Congress have to settle a strike? Amtrak I can see. But with Union Pacific? Burlington Northern? Norfolk Southern? Those are private outfits are they not?

That's what I'm wondering. We're not in war time so what would happen if the RR workers gave the finger to Congress?


I wonder if tap dancers walk into a room, look at the floor, and think, I'd tap that. I wonder about things.....
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Re: The Railroad [Re: Aix sponsa] #7731060
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The railroad is absolutely vital. The railroad shutting down could be an extremely serious matter for Americans if it isn’t resolved quickly, especially after the supply chain issues and price increases we’ve experienced over the last few years. With diesel prices and trucker shortages, reduced barges due to low water levels, and other shipping problems, the last thing we need is the railroad getting shut down. Think about how much grain, oil, chemicals, vehicles, and more is moved efficiently by rail.


We need rail to keep working smoothly.


[/quote] Sounds like a good time to strike, and get decent working conditions. Worked for a company for 34 yrs. We got 1/2 day sick leave a month for the 34 yrs I worked there. They wanted to break the union so they took sick leave away. The union membership accepted the contract. I didn't,I retired when I was 53 best thing I ever did.

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Re: The Railroad [Re: HobbieTrapper] #7731073
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I've always heard it was more about work hours then pay. I don't care how much money you make. If you're not around to spend it who cares. The other item to note is that for many years the RR's have been consolidating and now 4 or 5 RR's control the lions share of cross country shipping. Maybe with a strike all the containers being shipped from the west coast to the east will now go through the Panama canal and unload in the east. If the RR's start losing business the strike will end in a hurry. When I dealt with unions who threatened to go on strike we put a plan in place for Mangement to fill slots and keep the plant working. When the realized the strike could hurt them more then help them they changed their minds.


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