That's good question. I guess as a business owner I'd have to decide which is best for the good of the business.

Both situations I would blame whoever owns the house or owns the restaurant for a variety of reasons. The shoe situation just seems extremely petty to me and is a results of lack of being direct to the person coming into the house. The restaurant situation is the owner's fault for not implementing a situation that works for both people. Obviously the cigar smoking didn't happen overnight and both people liked the restaurant enough to keep coming back. I never minded the places that had smoking only areas that were properly blocked off, but most of the complaints were always because while there was glass surrounding the smokers, the top was never sealed with a ventilation system of it's own.

Lastly the more important issue is that if the owner of the house and restaurant are the same person, they have a very serious self respect issue and need to reflect on how to improve themselves so that people do not walk all over them. The person should learn to be more direct and firm with things so that people understand full well that you mean what you say. The person should remove the sign from their house because it's petty and passive aggressive.

Only biden ridin democrats have take your shoes off signs

" hay .... seriously? Can you not read ? Boots off at the door"

Now depending on there response is how the rest well go

Trespass the person

That's what I would immediately do as soon as he lit the cigar up for the second time.

Keith

... invite more because my customers got tired of whippin the same yankees’ butt over and over lol

If it were my forum I'm sure I would of said I'm sorry to have to ban that person. Beyond that, I guess I'd have to decide what is best for the forum as a whole. Wavering on the rules and bans isn't in a forum's best interest IMO.

Put a Porta John outside the fur shed, so Coonman ain't tromping through the house to get to the crapper....

Pcr2, Phil? I would like to see him back too. Christmas is a good time for forgiveness.

Keith

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Growing up I had a few friends were no shoes was an absolute rule or you were asked to leave by their parents.

My friends always take off their shoes; no signs necessary.
As kids they got whipped if they didn't take their shoes off at the door.
Probably is a cultural thing that has something to do with living in wet, muddy environments.

in WI you would ask him to stop then to leave , if he refuses call the sheriff , he can take his 2K trespassing ticket and his 100 dollar smoking fine. If you call it in as trespassing you don't get the fine for the establishment allowing smoking..

Putting my shoes in the morning is a struggle.
Taking them off at "your" house for whatever reason would only happen once.
just

I might know what you are referring to Larry.
Personally I think I think there were 2 over reactions
Bob

If you guys haven't figured it out yet, it isn't about the shoes.

If I was a bar owner that didn't want smoking in my bar, and someone lit up a smoke, I'd remind them of that... once. The second time they would be told not to come back.

As a smoker, if a bar has a sign saying no smoking, I don't smoke inside there. I also don't go back there.

... I really think 3/4 of them haven’t lol