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Silencers #7756364
12/28/22 07:55 AM
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Since you can't just buy one I am trying to do all the homework I can. I am down to three, a Rex Silentium Mod X 308, a Thunderbeast 30 cal, and a Gunwerks 8eight 30 cal. I know someone with a Mod x and its perty quiet.
Sound reduction is top priority and long range accuracy is right behind sound.
Does anyone own or have used one of these?
Thanks

Re: Silencers [Re: varmintshooter] #7756394
12/28/22 08:49 AM
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Don't own any of those but my research led me to a Dead Air Nomad that I have been pleased with

Re: Silencers [Re: varmintshooter] #7756404
12/28/22 09:10 AM
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How soon are you wanting to buy? There is a good ized silencer metering event in GA each year. It's a good place to get to shoot and hear a lot of different models. I host one at my farm in Indiana as well but the one in GA is bigger and probably closer for you. Dates have not been set for 23 yet..

My .30 cal ti can is a supressed armorment systems arbiter. Few I have heard supress as well . I shoot a 7mm08 and 243 without ear pro with no issues. Makes them sound about like a .22lr or .22 mag.

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Re: Silencers [Re: varmintshooter] #7756436
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Look at the Banish line from silencer central. I have the 30, and use it on everything from 22LR up through 308 winchester.

Re: Silencers [Re: varmintshooter] #7756478
12/28/22 11:13 AM
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Thunder Beast has a VERY good reputation for accuracy. I have one and it lives up to their reputation.

I also have a Rugged Radiant and it is also a good one.

Re: Silencers [Re: varmintshooter] #7756491
12/28/22 11:41 AM
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My son just got a Thunderbeast 30 and tried it on both his .30 PRC and .308. I changed the point of impact on both rifles quite a bit - 2.5 inches or a little more at 100 yards. He was going to switch it back and forth - but having to sight in the rifle with the suppressor makes the rifle useless without it

Re: Silencers [Re: WhiteCliffs] #7756511
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Originally Posted by WhiteCliffs
My son just got a Thunderbeast 30 and tried it on both his .30 PRC and .308. I changed the point of impact on both rifles quite a bit - 2.5 inches or a little more at 100 yards. He was going to switch it back and forth - but having to sight in the rifle with the suppressor makes the rifle useless without it


Yes, they will change the POI. Have a friend that writes MOA down for when shot without and then what it's hitting at with suppressor on. Easy adjustment then if you have the numbers down.

Re: Silencers [Re: WhiteCliffs] #7756544
12/28/22 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted by WhiteCliffs
My son just got a Thunderbeast 30 and tried it on both his .30 PRC and .308. I changed the point of impact on both rifles quite a bit - 2.5 inches or a little more at 100 yards. He was going to switch it back and forth - but having to sight in the rifle with the suppressor makes the rifle useless without it



Anytime you hang something new on the end of a barrel, you're going to have an impact changed, not a surpressor out there that won't change your sight in with and without it on, the big thing is, when you take one off and then put it back on, how much does it change your zero, that is where Thunderbeast is supposed to shine.


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Re: Silencers [Re: WhiteCliffs] #7756566
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Originally Posted by WhiteCliffs
My son just got a Thunderbeast 30 and tried it on both his .30 PRC and .308. I changed the point of impact on both rifles quite a bit - 2.5 inches or a little more at 100 yards. He was going to switch it back and forth - but having to sight in the rifle with the suppressor makes the rifle useless without it



Those above covers the point of impact shift.


Now I will ask why in the world would you ever want to shoot without a suppressor once you have one. Taking it off and putting it back on so it can be used with a different rifle will not change point of impact each time.

Re: Silencers [Re: varmintshooter] #7756607
12/28/22 02:10 PM
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You can get a permit faster, then make your own

Re: Silencers [Re: Cattrax] #7756745
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Originally Posted by Cattrax
Originally Posted by WhiteCliffs
My son just got a Thunderbeast 30 and tried it on both his .30 PRC and .308. I changed the point of impact on both rifles quite a bit - 2.5 inches or a little more at 100 yards. He was going to switch it back and forth - but having to sight in the rifle with the suppressor makes the rifle useless without it



Anytime you hang something new on the end of a barrel, you're going to have an impact changed, not a surpressor out there that won't change your sight in with and without it on, the big thing is, when you take one off and then put it back on, how much does it change your zero, that is where Thunderbeast is supposed to shine.


The part in red is exactly correct. Thunderbeast is VERY good about doing just that. My Rugged Radiant is also very good about it.
I just make sure to start screwing the suppressor on with the suppressor lined up the same way every time.

Re: Silencers [Re: varmintshooter] #7756757
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I use the quick change adapter with my suppressor, By Mack Bros. , They line up the same every time. I switch between rifles in seconds. I use a .30 can on .243 , .223 , .308 , .221 , holds zero very well. If you run subsonic it will sound like a pellet gun, full speed , basically sounds like a .22 mag.

Re: Silencers [Re: varmintshooter] #7756782
12/28/22 08:02 PM
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Big R screwed the pooch when they didnt take gun mufflers off the NFA list. Good luck in your quest to get permission from a sack of faceless bureaucrats to buy one varmintshooter.


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Re: Silencers [Re: varmintshooter] #7756808
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Thunderbeast makes good stuff.

I’ve had a 30P-1 (which is a dinosaur these days) for many years.

As has been said, EVERY suppressor out there is going to change POI. The important thing is that it changes it the same every time, repeatability.

Re: Silencers [Re: silkyplainscoyot] #7756848
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That's right. You can do the same with different ammo.


Yes, they will change the POI. Have a friend that writes MOA down for when shot without and then what it's hitting at with suppressor on. Easy adjustment then if you have the numbers down. [/quote]

Re: Silencers [Re: Tactical.20] #7756872
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Originally Posted by Tactical.20
You can get a permit faster, then make your own


A form 1( to make your own) takes the same amount of time as a form 4 tax stamp.

Re: Silencers [Re: varmintshooter] #7757336
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I have a Silencer Co and my POI stays the same.

Re: Silencers [Re: varmintshooter] #7757366
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Do those cans have any affect on recoil ?

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Re: Silencers [Re: Osky] #7757383
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Originally Posted by Osky
Do those cans have any affect on recoil ?

Osky



Yes, by adding mass to the rifle, actual recoil is reduced. Would it be detectable????

IMO, the.larger effect would be in "perceived recoil" because of a significant reduction in the audible report of the firearm. Each 3dB (decibels) reduction reduces the sound energy by half.


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Re: Silencers [Re: Scott__aR] #7757418
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Originally Posted by Scott__aR
Originally Posted by Osky
Do those cans have any affect on recoil ?

Osky



Yes, by adding mass to the rifle, actual recoil is reduced. Would it be detectable????

IMO, the.larger effect would be in "perceived recoil" because of a significant reduction in the audible report of the firearm. Each 3dB (decibels) reduction reduces the sound energy by half.



It reduces recoil about 30%. Cooling and slowing b the gas down also has an effect to reduce recoil.

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