Re: feeding the pheasants
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Our state DNR's sure have a double standard regarding invasive species. My thoughts exactly.
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Re: feeding the pheasants
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01/08/23 10:23 AM
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Its amazing to me how many people in other states say "they used to have wild pheasants." I cant imagine not havimg them around. Shame on us for allowing it, I guess. Lots of good memories and more to cpme. South Central and South Eastern PA was considered the Pheasant Capital of the east coast of the US in the 1960's and 70's People would plan their vacation time around when the pheasant season was open I knew of a group of 5 out of state pheasant hunter that would hunt every day of the opening week of the season . And all the local people would get together in groups of 4 or 5 hunters and hunt all day long if they needed to so they could get their limit of roosters only Opening day starting time was 9:00 Am .And it was non stop shooting for at least a few hours I grew up hunting pheasants .While I did not take it for granted I thought it would always be available. But in the early 1980's farming practices changed drastically And those changes lead to the end of wild birds in PA .And it happened so quickly that they where gone before anyone knew it was a problem.
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Re: feeding the pheasants
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danny clifton
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Its not legal to shoot hens here
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Re: feeding the pheasants
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Re: feeding the pheasants
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Hens are only allowed to be shot on preserves here. Preserve hunting to me, would equate to shooting a barnyard chicken. Entirely different animal from the wild version. Everyone that enjoys hunting should experience chasing late season wild pheasants. Chasing being the operative word.. lol. I love every bit of it to my core. Where I live, we will lose nearly all our birds from this last storm. 14-24” of fresh snow on top of our previous accumulations have most food plots and CRP completely buried. Without good cover and wind blown fields to scratch for feed they are gone. Very sad, they are cyclic, but I’m coming to the chilling realization that I only have a cycle or two left in ME…. The way of Mother Nature.
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Re: feeding the pheasants
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01/08/23 11:34 AM
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This was my limit this year some years I don’t shoot any but we had a bunch hanging around the place and I took these to MO for a feed at deer camp. In the boom years it was nothing to kick up waves of birds after the fields had been cut when pushing the lower creeks hundreds in a wave, now if you only see 3 in a good year like I did IL that’s tough to comprehend for many. LOL In those days I’d pull into the local grainy with my truck and fill up the bed with cracked corn then buy a half dozen bags of cheap bird seed for grit and spread it in the open spots. [b][/b] ![[Linked Image]](https://trapperman.com/forum/attachments/usergals/2023/01/full-18408-163931-049be47e_5d11_4000_b3b8_a7b798c3ed31.jpeg)
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Re: feeding the pheasants
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01/08/23 11:39 AM
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Shooting hens in PA has only been allowed in the last 10 years or so .The PA Game Commission has a stocking program that includes the stocking of hens and roosters .It is more cost effective that way .When they started legalizing the shooting of hens it was the admission that they had no answer to bringing back pheasant in the wild in PA . TC1 I strongly agree with you that hunting preserve birds is a poor substitute for hunting wild birds. The pen raised bird is not as skittish or, wary, it is a poor flyer and or runner . It has no wild instincts that amount to very much .But if you enjoy hunting birds over dogs .And you like the experience of hunting with family or friends .And wild birds simply do not exist it is what we are left to do .I have 2 dogs that love to hunt .And I doubt they know the difference between wild birds and pen raised .And on the outside chance that they do .They will still enjoy hunting either .If you have wild birds to hunt do every thing in your power to hunt them as much as possible . I and many others across the US have BECOME FORMER PHESANT HUNTERS because wild birds no longer live where they lived just a few years ago.
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Re: feeding the pheasants
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I've seen good numbers of butterballs scratching down to the waste grain in the various harvested corn fields around here. The Big Sioux valley east of Soo Foo is loaded with turkey and SD GFP really doesn't know what to do, hard to raise number of lottery tags in a peri-urban area. To compound things, Excel energy owns not only its parcel that abuts the river but all the ag parcels the touch it and they don't allow hunting. At least not to the common Joe, I'm sure their executives and some of their "friends" get to archery hunt deer in the fall and shotgun butterballs in the spring. It's good to be "king"  ...
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Re: feeding the pheasants
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They sure are delicious too. (pheasants) Around here it seems that they just run ahead of you till you reach a road or disked up field or something that ends the cover. About the time you think there were no birds they start thundering up all around you.
w side rd 151, right here where I live we never had pheasants. Had quail and prairie chickens though. For whatever reason we have very few now so I don't hunt them here. 40 years ago any hedge row or growed up strip of weeds along a ditch or something you would find at least one covey. Now you have to cover a lot of ground to find one. We would sit in the evening different places to shoot chickens when they fly over but I rarely see one now.
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Re: feeding the pheasants
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Predation of ground nesting animals is unbearable in most places. Yes, there has been habitat degradation. But even in areas of good habitat, ground nesting animals have declined. In areas of mediocre habitat, they are gone. Our quail, rabbits, turkeys, cotton rats, snakes, even salamanders are almost gone - even in areas of good habitat. We have a thriving coon, coyote, bobcat, bear, hawk, and gator population. I dont believe upland game populations will ever recover in our area.
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Re: feeding the pheasants
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01/08/23 12:53 PM
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Very cool! I saw more pheasants on our trip to SD this year than I have ever seen. I even managed to hit a couple. Hitting with the car does not count as a true hit. Even if the passenger gets them with the swinging door trick,
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Re: feeding the pheasants
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01/10/23 08:59 AM
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Our state DNR's sure have a double standard regarding invasive species. My thoughts exactly. I don’t get it. I don’t think any state has or has ever had pheasants listed as an invasive species have they? I know they were purposely introduced but never heard them called invasive before.
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Re: feeding the pheasants
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[quote=BernieB.]Our state DNR's sure have a double standard regarding invasive species. I don’t get it. I don’t think any state has or has ever had pheasants listed as an invasive species have they? I know they were purposely introduced but never heard them called invasive before. That's exactly the point, they never call them invasive but they are. They were introduced from china into Oregon in the 1880s. They are just as invasive as zebra mussels or gobies or any invasive plants we spend millions of dollars trying to eradicate.
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