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Ukie demo derby with M113... #7799501
02/15/23 08:45 PM
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This might be about the only thing that the 1960s/70s vintage American M113 APC is good for over there. I wouldn't want to be riding behind its 2 inches of aluminum armor going up against the Rus but at least the Ukie boys get a little fun out of their ride, especially if the property is owned by civilian rebel orcs...

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Re: Ukie demo derby with M113... [Re: NonPCfed] #7799518
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Re: Ukie demo derby with M113... [Re: NonPCfed] #7799521
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Its good to learn a new machines capabilities.
You might need to know if it can climb over some parked cars if you get in a bind.

Sort of like finding out how big of trees you can drive over with the scandik before it flips.

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Re: Ukie demo derby with M113... [Re: NonPCfed] #7799533
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Its good to learn a new machines capabilities.
You might need to know if it can climb over some parked cars if you get in a bind.

Sort of like finding out how big of trees you can drive over with the scandik before it flips.


As long as you don't screw up the track, but hey, they didn't buy it!!


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Re: Ukie demo derby with M113... [Re: NonPCfed] #7799535
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113's are support vehicles really. Their great for what their supposed to do but not past that. It alike how people try saying the Bradley isn't a good tanks because modern day tanks can easily defeat it's armor and it can't kill tanks with it's mail weapon....like yeah, their not ment to got up against tanks or anti tank weapons. Their a IFV .
113's are good for light support and doing things trucks can't really do. So mobile TOCS , ambulances , LIGHT infantry support platforms and troop transportation. They do however shine for combat roles like mobile motor systems. Their not a tank and anyone trying to use them like a tank without some upgrades needs friggen help.
They are however easy to fix and their one of the most durable vehicles we have , and we have plenty of them some I doubt the ones we btw are hiring anything at all past transportation costs.
Really with they would make one into a contact truck deal deal with a little crane. One rigged up like a baby 88 would be amazing!

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Re: Ukie demo derby with M113... [Re: NonPCfed] #7799545
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they should enjoy life before vlad comes and gets em....


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Re: Ukie demo derby with M113... [Re: NonPCfed] #7799866
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Do they still run the M 578 wolfdog?


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Re: Ukie demo derby with M113... [Re: NonPCfed] #7799874
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Re: Ukie demo derby with M113... [Re: NonPCfed] #7799881
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How much do you get paid to be Russias cheerleader NonPc?


Re: Ukie demo derby with M113... [Re: NonPCfed] #7799974
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Hard to believe the katsaps couldn't take out these old 113s.

The 113 have actually performed quite well in Ukraine, all things considered.

Re: Ukie demo derby with M113... [Re: NonPCfed] #7799991
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i drove a 113 back in the 80's -early 90"s. with a little tinkering theyll do over 55mph on pavement, impressive in mud too, tho i buried one in a creekbed so bad once they got a d-7 cat dozer with a winch stuck tryin' to recover me. the m-88 tank retriever didnt even break a sweat, now theres an impressive beast! another old vietnam era workhorse.

Re: Ukie demo derby with M113... [Re: NonPCfed] #7800042
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How much do you get paid to be Russias cheerleader NonPc?


More than you do, especially since its in gold. I like gold...


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Re: Ukie demo derby with M113... [Re: Michigander] #7800054
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Originally Posted by Michigander
How much do you get paid to be Russias cheerleader NonPc?


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Re: Ukie demo derby with M113... [Re: NonPCfed] #7800203
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hippie- Weren't you a strong supporter of Trump...?

If so, I wonder why you support Sniffy and the minions war against Russia so bad?? Must be a fan of Rambo II and III, eh?


Well, if the U.S. government does go full kinetic toe-to-toe inside Ukieland with the Rus, this old "Baghdad Bob" will be quiet because:

1) Sniffy and minions will probably imprison anyone who disagrees with them and I don't plan to find out how "drop the soap" works in prison.

and

2) It will be pointless to keep talking about it because a lot of American, and probably even some Canadian, military are going to die to prop up a worthless corrupt government who is actually grabbing men and boys off the streets and pressing them into their army against their will. So much for "western values". Everybody on here thinks its going to be a cake walk for the U.S. government and its NATO groupies to beat the Russian military and defeat the Russian nation. Might be, but what if its isn't and NATO doesn't win conventionally? What's Plan B...?? Full out nuclear war...?

Sorry, I think I'll pass on that one...


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Re: Ukie demo derby with M113... [Re: NonPCfed] #7800208
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When I was at Fort Polk Louisiana we had a ton of M113A1s. I was in a mechanized infantry unit. They were used for troop transport. They would hold about a squad. The morter platoon could shoot mortars from inside. They had a "flip hatch". Yes, I'm old.


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Re: Ukie demo derby with M113... [Re: NonPCfed] #7800291
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My brother was Army AA in late '73 through '75 shooting a "Vulcan" (right name?) 6-barrel 20mm cannon off of a M113. He still has a little scar on his lower back where the ramp of the APC hit him on the way down one time. Even aluminum can be a bit heavy in mass...


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Re: Ukie demo derby with M113... [Re: NonPCfed] #7800518
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Originally Posted by NonPCfed
hippie- Weren't you a strong supporter of Trump...?

If so, I wonder why you support Sniffy and the minions war against Russia so bad?? Must be a fan of Rambo II and III, eh?


Well, if the U.S. government does go full kinetic toe-to-toe inside Ukieland with the Rus, this old "Baghdad Bob" will be quiet because:

1) Sniffy and minions will probably imprison anyone who disagrees with them and I don't plan to find out how "drop the soap" works in prison.

and

2) It will be pointless to keep talking about it because a lot of American, and probably even some Canadian, military are going to die to prop up a worthless corrupt government who is actually grabbing men and boys off the streets and pressing them into their army against their will. So much for "western values". Everybody on here thinks its going to be a cake walk for the U.S. government and its NATO groupies to beat the Russian military and defeat the Russian nation. Might be, but what if its isn't and NATO doesn't win conventionally? What's Plan B...?? Full out nuclear war...?

Sorry, I think I'll pass on that one...

I would to!! General Milley has and WILL sell,us out before the first shot is fired!! This Government is more into a WOKE Military than a fighting one!! It is NOT the Military I was in!!!


God please keep they 19 fallen UBB miners out of trouble up there.
Re: Ukie demo derby with M113... [Re: NonPCfed] #7800569
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ground pounders love the old 113's. sure beats humpin with all your gear piled on your back. go ahead & shoot at me with your 7.62. just know that 'ol ma duece the .50 bmg browning on top will be returning fire in short order.

Re: Ukie demo derby with M113... [Re: NonPCfed] #7800610
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Those 113s don't swim. Learned that on one of our rotations through the combat box at Hohenfels. We had just fininished digging a tank ditch across a small valley with a pond in the center. Our ditch run up to the pond on both sides. Unknown to us there was a 113 forward of us on an LP. We discovered that when it came screaming back to the lines with OPFOR hot on it's heels. The poor guys headed straight for what must've looked like the only gap in the ditch, the pond dam. I swear it looked like it went airborne before the splash down.


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Re: Ukie demo derby with M113... [Re: NonPCfed] #7800622
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They have to be rigged and prepped for swimming


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