Hahaha!

Thorpe would liberally squirt urine all over the set and around it, kneel in the mess and make his set.
He caught canines.
Many of the old timers used urine like a cover scent.

Johnny, on his own account, claimed to have smoked 5 packs of cigarettes a day.
Who do you know that does that ?

He was trying to cover up his tobacco odor. I know a lot of people who smoke. I seriously doubt animals are afraid of tobacco. But, it will shorten your life. . .and that is the real damage to a trapper

He quit smoking long before I visited for instructions.
I don't think he was overly concerned about human scent at that time but it was the way a lot of that generation were taught to trap foxes. Pete Rickard may have been influencial in that. Most of the old books tell you to sprinkle your set with urine.

I seen a guy giving instructions on trapping wolves who used the dried flake "coyote urine" sold as a deer repellent in the gardening section. He would take the shaker and shake it all over his set like salting a plate of food. Claimed he did the same for coyotes. I don't know how successful he was, I tried it on a couple of sets without success, but I didnt really have confidence in it and didn't figure either that it would smell natural or that I wanted urine everywhere even if it did. So I never tried it enough to give it a fair trail.

IMO, if you're using that type of product, there's more than one flake on that trap line . . .

It makes sense to do this to me to protect the cache, when another animal smells their pee they are just going to assume that the coyote was there, and may not smell the food. Coyotes on the other hand apparently have one of the greatest noses in the woods, so it would know if other coyotes are passing through. I also don't really place merit in field biologist never hearing about it, last year I was out in the woods 10x than any state field biologist in the entire state combined. My dog also pees on the woodline, as well as poops there everyday, if she smells something else she will pee on that spot. Not as experienced as most on here, but just my opinion.

I will test this though this year, I'll get some steak and bury it and pee on the spot where it's buried, see how long it stays. I will update you.

After filling holes with bait, squirting urine and smearing lure for 3 years, I'd leave it all at home except for my rotted mouse bait for coyotes.

Unfortunately I'm in a "cage only" state so it doesn't matter much but with 3 to 8 holes in a bank, the "mice only" out preforms everything especially in the middle of summer.

Some of my other baits/lures get great responses but not in the heat of the summer.

For what it's worth..

Shame Washington state has lost it's trapping rights on foot holds

Yep. Sucks for sure! Coyote trapping was definitely in the top 10 of things I enjoyed in life.
I now use dirthole sets to locate active coyote areas then hunt them with my thermal equipment. Odds of a response seem to go way up where holes are dug up and way cheaper/faster than running cameras.

"Fox, cats, coyotes and yes, even wolves seldom, if ever scent mark over aged bottled urine, as we've been led to believe by writers of the past.
It's B S !
Oh, they'll walk straight up to it and smell it. They'll do the same where you pee , but they won't scent mark aged urine.
It does NOT have that effect, which is why it doesn't warrant that response."


Wont . Never always Three words that will make a liar out of anyone


News to me coyotes wont work aged urine.
Guess i better just shoot the coyote in my pen and quit useing urine lt said it wouldnt work

Same here TravC. Going up to lure shed now and pour out my last 2 year old gallon of SMC urine. Momday I will get us some commercial coyote urine ! LoL!!

I don't think you realize how much our state biologist are out ...

My catches have always been best when I listened to what the animals told me... I use urine for what it's true intention is, not like frosting on a cake.. aged or fresh lol....

Don't some bait solutions have urine in them? At least one of the bait solutions that I've used had urine in it because I could smell ammonia, that is, unless some other ingredient can produce an ammonia smell. I've never squirted urine down the hole or on bait. On the backing or a tuft of grass to the side? Yes.

This

TravC , I never said coyotes won't work over aged urine.
I said they don't mark over it as old time writers led us to believe.
Yes, they'll walk up and smell it and step in a concealed trap. NOT what I said.
They don't mark it with their own urine , USUALLY, for the sake of argument.
Night vision cameras has dispelled that myth !

And while we're at it. . .define : aged urine.
Something that you collected from your penned coyotes and then took out on your line and used ?
Or urine that was bought from a supply house that had sat on a shelf for two years ?

While both will catch animals, one has an advantage over the other !

When I collected urine, then took it out on the line, few lures, if any , matched it's appeal.
Not true with most urines sold to trappers today.
Both catch coyotes, yet coyotes will respond to one over the other.

Today many trappers still position their traps at 'post sets' as if the animal is coming up to urinate on the object they have placed, marking it with bottled urine.
Which in most cases, isn't true.
If they placed their traps on the approach or where the animal will stand while smelling the object, their catch would be higher.
Most bottled , aged urine, should be treated as a 'lure'.

Most animals will walk up , smell it, then walk away.
The object should be catch them when they do.

Many will walk over and 'scent mark' another place NOt the object the trapper brought in.
Old urine , while still attractive, on it's odor alone , seldom will evoke that response.

Hay sets, as an example are productive because the animal walks along the mound, smelling the scent, more often than it urinated on it.

Ttt

LT, you know as well as any that this isn't because the supply house urine has been sitting on a shelf, it's because it is either fake urine/summer collected/not meat fed

Don't compare supply house urine with meat fed winter urine that you personally collected, the meat fed winter collected will win every time

Nothing at all wrong with real urine that has been aged awhile. I have real meat fed winter collected urine from 2018. Ages like a fine wine

That is a shame. That is also one of the reasons I did not like Florida. I even had a nosy neighbor sic the Police on me for having some Foothold traps hanging in my shed. I bought them at a rummage sale for pennies. It is not illegal to Posses them just to set them is what the Officer told her.