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Most western states now using GPS in Sheds #7816179
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To Protect the Wildlife most Western States are using GPS in Sheds , I Hope it Helps


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Re: Most western states now using GPS in Sheds [Re: Bearcub] #7816220
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Take another shot at it, i'm lost.


All you "Woke" people need to go back to sleep!
Re: Most western states now using GPS in Sheds [Re: Bearcub] #7816225
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A small tracking device is placed in the antler and the antler is then placed out in the woods for someone to find. The authorities are able to locate the antler if an individual were to move it (take it home). Many places do not allow antler removal at all or only during certain time periods.


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Re: Most western states now using GPS in Sheds [Re: Bearcub] #7816232
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So it's ok to disturb wildlife by placing an entrapment object in a so called " protected " area , but not ok to remove it ?


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Re: Most western states now using GPS in Sheds [Re: Bearcub] #7816252
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Entrapment is right


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Re: Most western states now using GPS in Sheds [Re: Bearcub] #7816257
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Got money to burn !!! Itís a dang shed !!! Animal is finished with it what harm is it ? Let it go to waste

Re: Most western states now using GPS in Sheds [Re: Bearcub] #7816260
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Huh?, you can't pick up an antler anymore? Is this the new eagle feather.

Re: Most western states now using GPS in Sheds [Re: Bearcub] #7816261
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Wind Cave NP just down the road was placing a large bleached Buffalo skull by the road this summer and waiting for people to stop and pick it up. They busted several people trying to take it. Talk about entrapment!!! What a worthless place I donít even like driving though it!! Miss managed prairie dog infested dump!!

Re: Most western states now using GPS in Sheds [Re: Bearcub] #7816263
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They do it here mostly in national parks and for other things like sheep horns and such. We have an island where a bunch of sheep live and some guy got busted for taking a horn.

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Re: Most western states now using GPS in Sheds [Re: Bearcub] #7816275
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We have alot of winter road closures here on public lands to " protect wildlife " . Almost no predator control as a result . Lots of dead deer

It hasn't worked and won't but the department of fish and wildlife know best


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Re: Most western states now using GPS in Sheds [Re: Bearcub] #7816298
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I guess you all think using decoys for poachers is entrapment as well?
The antler is laying there and you pick it up that is not entrapment. You made the choice to break the law.
We're talking about areas that do not allow antler gathering or have winter range closures to protect wintering animals which by the way are struggling this winter across the West.

Re: Most western states now using GPS in Sheds [Re: Bearcub] #7816337
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They ought to be ashamed of themselves

Re: Most western states now using GPS in Sheds [Re: Bearcub] #7816338
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Move everyone of those crappie cops to the southern border to solve real problems.

Re: Most western states now using GPS in Sheds [Re: wytex] #7816347
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Originally Posted by wytex
I guess you all think using decoys for poachers is entrapment as well?
The antler is laying there and you pick it up that is not entrapment. You made the choice to break the law.
We're talking about areas that do not allow antler gathering or have winter range closures to protect wintering animals which by the way are struggling this winter across the West.

Agree with part of it but using decoys to get poachers nope there is no law about shooting a decoy they get you for shining , shooting from the road etc, they do it here in Illinois but not once has that stopped a poacher that shoots a buck and cuts off the skull cap and I have seen this numerous times . They don't catch these guys because of laziness and the decoy is all about getting money. As for sheds they have the same B.S. rules on public ground here to but last I recall our tax money buys the ground and they try to determine how we should get to use it and if a a politician found a shed on public ground they would go out of their way to let them keep it.

Re: Most western states now using GPS in Sheds [Re: Bearcub] #7816405
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Big money in shed collecting, especially on the wintering grounds in the west where a lot of elk drop their sheds in a relatively small area.
Shed collecting is still allowed in those areas but there will be a starting date, almost like an opening day for hunting season. In some of the good areas there will be 4-500 people lined up waiting for the opening. Itís a mad dash when the clock strikes.

Decoys are set up to prevent poaching, as there is a big financial incentive to sneak in early.
Some area like National Parks itís strictly prohibited.

Re: Most western states now using GPS in Sheds [Re: Bearcub] #7816469
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Decoy deer to stop SHOOTING from the road is a different beast . Last I checked shed hunting can be done without a gun . But you might want a side arm in some places

Re: Most western states now using GPS in Sheds [Re: Bearcub] #7816485
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Sort of like a "Bait Car", or "Hooker Cop". They work extremely well.
Laws is laws. If you don't like em' focus on getting get em' changed ...... not breaking em'.

Ignorance of the law is no excuse either. Lame excuses should get double fines, not leniency.

Re: Most western states now using GPS in Sheds [Re: jalstat] #7816486
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Originally Posted by jalstat
Originally Posted by wytex
I guess you all think using decoys for poachers is entrapment as well?
The antler is laying there and you pick it up that is not entrapment. You made the choice to break the law.
We're talking about areas that do not allow antler gathering or have winter range closures to protect wintering animals which by the way are struggling this winter across the West.

Agree with part of it but using decoys to get poachers nope there is no law about shooting a decoy they get you for shining , shooting from the road etc, they do it here in Illinois but not once has that stopped a poacher that shoots a buck and cuts off the skull cap and I have seen this numerous times . They don't catch these guys because of laziness and the decoy is all about getting money. As for sheds they have the same B.S. rules on public ground here to but last I recall our tax money buys the ground and they try to determine how we should get to use it and if a a politician found a shed on public ground they would go out of their way to let them keep it.

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Re: Most western states now using GPS in Sheds [Re: Bearcub] #7816510
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Stay legal and it should not be a worry. Just because you do not agree with a law, doesn't mean you should break it.


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Re: Most western states now using GPS in Sheds [Re: Bearcub] #7816519
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Reading the first post I thought, if ya need GPS in yer shed, its probably time to tidy it up a little bit, so ya can find the door without it.

Reading on I learned something else.

When finding a antler , inspect it carefully and if it has a GPS tracking devise in it, leave the shed, take the GPS and drive it 50 miles down and interstate, then fling it out the window, preferably or a ravine bridge or into the muddy middle bit.
I would probably do the 40 minutes drive and drop the thing of in Kentucky grin

Go home, have a drink and smile.

Last edited by Scuba1; 03/09/23 11:13 AM.

Let's go Brandon

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Re: Most western states now using GPS in Sheds [Re: Bearcub] #7816522
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Nobody fights the overreach of some game depts at what point is everything not ďtheirsĒ I go around here with them on several things they canít seem to let go of.

If you hit a deer here itís yours not theirs unless itís a trophy rack then itís theirs again just how do horns change the ownership like that? They take no responsibility for ďtheirĒ deer running loose when they claim ownership up to the time it runs out in front of you then it your deer. LOL

Same with trapping you buy a license then catch tag say a bobcat now if you sell it to a taxidermist he needs a fur buyers license because heís considered a commercial user even though heís not a fur buyer really.

If you find a rack in the woods attached to the skull you canít pick it up here if you have a rack that you tagged and shot that looks the same they think they can take it not knowing the story behind it. Donít agree with that never ending in and out ownership claims based on I can do it thinking. FYI the racks they pile up go on a state auction if not to a mount for whatever purpose.


Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!

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Re: Most western states now using GPS in Sheds [Re: Bearcub] #7816537
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I have a small problem with following some of the rules an laws that they seem fit I'm a free man in a free country if I need a deer to feed my family guess what I'm going out on my back 40 an there will be food on the table

Re: Most western states now using GPS in Sheds [Re: Bearcub] #7816545
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As far as I am concerned they will be treated on my property like any other trespassing idiot that did not read the signs telling them to keep out.


Let's go Brandon

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Re: Most western states now using GPS in Sheds [Re: Bearcub] #7816554
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Shed hunting in Montana is legal except in areas closed which are certain winter game ranges. People who do this in these areas early are thieves and several have been prosecuted for it. These areas are controlled to protect spring calving seasons and to make it fairer for all. Its a big event with hundreds lining up to per take.

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Re: Most western states now using GPS in Sheds [Re: Bearcub] #7816570
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Since the Statute of Limitations has run its course.....I'm sure glad they didn't have this level of technology years ago when I was working on a trail crew in Yellowstone National Park.

I found a winter-killed bull elk with about 355" of antler up Soda Butte Ck in the Lamar Valley.

Not only did I take it out to the road and smuggle it out of the park, but I packed it out to the road on a horse owned by the NPS!

It was one of my earliest environmental "crimes!" I was 18 that summer.

Pete

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Originally Posted by Pete in Frbks
Since the Statute of Limitations has run its course.....I'm sure glad they didn't have this level of technology years ago when I was working on a trail crew in Yellowstone National Park.

I found a winter-killed bull elk with about 355" of antler up Soda Butte Ck in the Lamar Valley.

Not only did I take it out to the road and smuggle it out of the park, but I packed it out to the road on a horse owned by the NPS!

It was one of my earliest environmental "crimes!" I was 18 that summer.

Pete


That makes me smile Pete!!!!!

Re: Most western states now using GPS in Sheds [Re: Bearcub] #7816617
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Found a nice big elk deadhead in Yellowstone too one year. We stopped took pics of it and then left it lay.
We've found many elk deadheads since then and much bigger.

Intesrting turn this thread took form the OPs post.

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