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Never leave an enlisted man alone #7844499
04/12/23 09:58 PM
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One of my captains once told me : never leave enlisted men alone without supervision because they will solve problems in the most creative ways.


Carlos Hathcock was a prime example. Back in the day before Barrett
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The of course there where the gun trucks . Need to find the documentary again but man those guys were
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Even up to the GWOT. Lotta my NCO's would talk to us for hours in the motor pool about how they had to rig up gun trucks and hillbilly up armor back in 03
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Re: Never leave an enlisted man alone [Re: Wolfdog91] #7844677
04/13/23 10:03 AM
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Get pics a marine is a weapon in himself.

Re: Never leave an enlisted man alone [Re: Wolfdog91] #7844682
04/13/23 10:08 AM
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Hathcock was the best of the best. All soldiers are heroes in my way of thinking. Nice photos.


The first bottles of Coca Cola contained 3.5 grams of cocaine. That's how our grandparents were able to walk to school uphill both ways in the snow.
Re: Never leave an enlisted man alone [Re: Wolfdog91] #7844688
04/13/23 10:16 AM
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We are a free country because these heroes were willing to put their lives on the line to make sure we stayed that way. The current administration wants to take away this freedom.


The first bottles of Coca Cola contained 3.5 grams of cocaine. That's how our grandparents were able to walk to school uphill both ways in the snow.
Re: Never leave an enlisted man alone [Re: Wolfdog91] #7844712
04/13/23 10:41 AM
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that truck looks like it has a personnel carrier with the tracks taken off on it


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Re: Never leave an enlisted man alone [Re: Trapper7] #7844744
04/13/23 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Trapper7
Hathcock was the best of the best. All soldiers are heroes in my way of thinking. Nice photos.

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Re: Never leave an enlisted man alone [Re: Wolfdog91] #7844747
04/13/23 11:51 AM
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Speaking of Hathcock, recently ran across a reference to him that some might find interesting. It is there if you keep reading.

https://www.ballisticstudies.com/Knowledgebase/Hold+that+Forend.html

Again, some might find this helpful, others will reject it outright. Intended to be applied to moderate to heavy recoil hunting rifles in hunting situations. FWIW.


Easy to vote your way into socialism, but impossible to vote your way out of it.
Re: Never leave an enlisted man alone [Re: HayDay] #7844804
04/13/23 02:41 PM
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Originally Posted by HayDay
Speaking of Hathcock, recently ran across a reference to him that some might find interesting. It is there if you keep reading.

https://www.ballisticstudies.com/Knowledgebase/Hold+that+Forend.html

Again, some might find this helpful, others will reject it outright. Intended to be applied to moderate to heavy recoil hunting rifles in hunting situations. FWIW.


it is all about keeping it the same

guns absolutely change point of impact with recoil

theoretically a 150 gr 30-06 should be a flatter shooting round than a 180gr and the arc of the bullet is to a point , but if you were sighted in for 150s and you switch to 180 and don't sight in you may find yourself shooting 3 inches higher than you were with 150s , the difference is how much the rifle moved in recoil before the bullet exited the muzzle

you will see it in 44mag 180s may shoot to the factory sight while you need a taller front sight for 240gr


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Re: Never leave an enlisted man alone [Re: Wolfdog91] #7844845
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Don't want to even attempt to summarize his book in one or two sentences, but short version is he is not fond of guys shooting cross armed off bipods.......wants them to use a sandbag or firm front and rear stock rest, plus sling and firm grip on forearm to minimize the "bounce" from recoil.......and third factor is a straight, inline stock. Monte Carlo stocks offset from straight recoil of rifle contributing to felt recoil and causing muzzle bounce. And again, that applies to guys using larger caliber sporter hunting rifles. Not heavy barreled, lite recoiling small caliber target rifles.....one's that don't bounce much anyway. His motivation is to teach guys how to accurately shoot sporter rifles in actual field conditions.

Beyond that, his point was......if you want to shoot like Hathcock did........then shoot like Hathcock did. Use same methods he used.


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Re: Never leave an enlisted man alone [Re: Wolfdog91] #7844872
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How much green house gas is passed out thr tail pipes

Re: Never leave an enlisted man alone [Re: Wolfdog91] #7845003
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Gunny told me that he cut the bicycle in half that a gun runner was riding a fer piece away with that rig. Then he finished the job shortly thereafter.
He told me he did not particularly enjoy killing folks, except for that one nasty (can't use that word in here) woman who tortured captured marines so everyone could hear them scream in the darkness of night, He said that he thoroughly enjoyed taking that on out. The only one he could say that about. It was just a job to him. One that he proudly did to save the lives of his fellow Marines.
As much of a legend that he was, he was an even better man in person. Very kind and caring to others. One of the biggest highlights of my life was the day that he let know that he considered me his friend.
Semper fi Gunny!

Re: Never leave an enlisted man alone [Re: 52Carl] #7845020
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Here ya go Wolfie. grin

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Re: Never leave an enlisted man alone [Re: Wolfdog91] #7846388
04/16/23 11:12 AM
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i called it being resourcefull!

Re: Never leave an enlisted man alone [Re: Trapper7] #7846435
04/16/23 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Trapper7
We are a free country because these heroes were willing to put their lives on the line to make sure we stayed that way. The current administration wants to take away this freedom.

Amen


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Re: Never leave an enlisted man alone [Re: HayDay] #7846800
04/16/23 08:33 PM
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Originally Posted by HayDay
Don't want to even attempt to summarize his book in one or two sentences, but short version is he is not fond of guys shooting cross armed off bipods.......wants them to use a sandbag or firm front and rear stock rest, plus sling and firm grip on forearm to minimize the "bounce" from recoil.......and third factor is a straight, inline stock. Monte Carlo stocks offset from straight recoil of rifle contributing to felt recoil and causing muzzle bounce. And again, that applies to guys using larger caliber sporter hunting rifles. Not heavy barreled, lite recoiling small caliber target rifles.....one's that don't bounce much anyway. His motivation is to teach guys how to accurately shoot sporter rifles in actual field conditions.

Beyond that, his point was......if you want to shoot like Hathcock did........then shoot like Hathcock did. Use same methods he used.

I read the book too. He mentioned putting a rag or hanky down in front of the muzzle so the rifle blast didn't kick up dirt revealing his position. He knew all the tricks of being a great sniper.


The first bottles of Coca Cola contained 3.5 grams of cocaine. That's how our grandparents were able to walk to school uphill both ways in the snow.
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