Re: AI
[Re: yotetrapper30]
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05/03/23 10:45 PM
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GritGuy
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Fungus has been trying to do the same for millions of years. It hasn't won yet... Trapper, I'd not equate fungus with AI, you might if you wish though !! However AI will challenge us back, never seen fungus do that after being treated properly, the question is how do you treat something that is so far ahead of you in process, that you can't think quick enough to react ?
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Re: AI
[Re: TrapperDR]
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05/03/23 10:59 PM
05/03/23 10:59 PM
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Chancey
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I find this subject very interesting. The practical side of me says computer modules are much smarter than human derived models because they lack emotions, so the models AI or algorithms find are data driven and mostly factual. The other part of my practical brain says most everything is emotionally driven because data entry is done by humans who often choose emotionally driven ambitions and will find ways to make their "facts" correct.
The one thing that I truly believe is that AI is a house of cards. If people stop feeding it info it cannot do what humans do, which is live on emotions and continue to survive regardless of factual evidence saying differently. So my line of site is, it would self implode if humans stop feeding it data. Basically if you take life down to simple or complex mathematical science, you can't outlive the unknown variables of adaptability that humans have, think of all the times someone has beat the odds and changed history. That creates new variables that change the "known logic" again.
100 years ago people would have said BS to what is happening now. 100 years from now they will say the same. In-between that time there will be a lot of BS to scare the masses. You are beyond naive; perhaps just lacking a worldly experience that is gained through years of life on this earth. If you think AI driven data is more factual, then you have missed the point. Guess what happens when you input BS into a system, you get bigger BS.
Resident Conspiracy Theorist Accused Moron, Nazi, Low IQ, Putin Fan Boy, and Obama Clone
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Re: AI
[Re: Chancey]
#7858985
05/03/23 11:02 PM
05/03/23 11:02 PM
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Iowa
TrapperDR
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I find this subject very interesting. The practical side of me says computer modules are much smarter than human derived models because they lack emotions, so the models AI or algorithms find are data driven and mostly factual. The other part of my practical brain says most everything is emotionally driven because data entry is done by humans who often choose emotionally driven ambitions and will find ways to make their "facts" correct.
The one thing that I truly believe is that AI is a house of cards. If people stop feeding it info it cannot do what humans do, which is live on emotions and continue to survive regardless of factual evidence saying differently. So my line of site is, it would self implode if humans stop feeding it data. Basically if you take life down to simple or complex mathematical science, you can't outlive the unknown variables of adaptability that humans have, think of all the times someone has beat the odds and changed history. That creates new variables that change the "known logic" again.
100 years ago people would have said BS to what is happening now. 100 years from now they will say the same. In-between that time there will be a lot of BS to scare the masses. You are beyond naive; perhaps just lacking a worldly experience that is gained through years of life on this earth. If you think AI driven data is more factual, then you have missed the point. Guess what happens when you input BS into a system, you get bigger BS. Thanks Chancy. It would be hard to believe that humans haven't done this since the dawn of time. Glad we are now facing an entirely new experience that has never before been seen. Your experience is far beyond us all.
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Re: AI
[Re: yotetrapper30]
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05/03/23 11:09 PM
05/03/23 11:09 PM
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Central Texas
Chancey
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Thank you for the comprehensive enlightenment. Just so you know, you come off as a real arrogant prick on here. At least to me.
Resident Conspiracy Theorist Accused Moron, Nazi, Low IQ, Putin Fan Boy, and Obama Clone
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Re: AI
[Re: TrapperDR]
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05/03/23 11:14 PM
05/03/23 11:14 PM
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YoteChaser1968
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Nothing man has created has lasted longer than a few hundred years. Earth creates things that last much longer and that is fact without going biblical. Earth is not AI. Pyramids?
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Re: AI
[Re: yotetrapper30]
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05/03/23 11:16 PM
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Marion Kansas
Yes sir
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Either Ai is highly over played or most of us can't grasp its capabilities. What little ive learned about it I'd guess it's the latter. Could it kill off the human race completely probably not but it may have the capability of controlling the mass of the population that must live in a digital world, which is getting more necessary if you want to be part of modern culture.
Last edited by Yes sir; 05/03/23 11:22 PM.
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Re: AI
[Re: Chancey]
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05/03/23 11:17 PM
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Iowa
TrapperDR
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Thank you for the comprehensive enlightenment. Just so you know, you come off as a real arrogant prick on here. At least to me. I'm OK with your description of me Chancy. Could you please read above where you say data BS entry is the problem and I said the same thing in a posts above that. I know worldly time is important to you but reading comprehensive should come along with that.
Last edited by TrapperDR; 05/03/23 11:23 PM.
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Re: AI
[Re: Yes sir]
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05/03/23 11:22 PM
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Chancey
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Either Ai is highly over played or most of us can't grasp its capabilities. What little of learned about it I'd guess it's the latter. Could it kill off the human race completely probably not but it may have the capability of controlling the mass of the population that must live in a digital world, which is getting more necessary if you want to be part of modern culture. I think this is the thing Yes Sir. Most all of us live within an hour or two of a heavily populated city. AI has the potential to put probably 40% or more of the population out of a job; which will change the way we live dramatically. If it changes so fast and coupled with the monetary problems we have right now, then things could go south fast. Those heavily populated areas will turn into anarchy over night.
Resident Conspiracy Theorist Accused Moron, Nazi, Low IQ, Putin Fan Boy, and Obama Clone
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Re: AI
[Re: Chancey]
#7859028
05/04/23 02:23 AM
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Eastern Shore of Maryland
HobbieTrapper
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Eastern Shore of Maryland
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Those heavily populated areas will turn into anarchy over night. And you think that is something to be concerned over? Wasn’t there numerous threads about how these places are a problem speaking for the other portions of key states just days ago? AI will control the compliant like regular government the only difference is instead of pulling a trigger to get rid of it you’ll pull the plug. Probably have to do a little of both because there will people who will do their best to keep the lights on so they don’t have to make any decisions themselves, which leads me back to people being the concern and not a computer.
-Goofy
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Re: AI
[Re: yotetrapper30]
#7859040
05/04/23 05:23 AM
05/04/23 05:23 AM
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williamsburg ks
danny clifton
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williamsburg ks
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i wonder how many people posting are just AI robots serving the collective left?
Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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