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Barrel swivel on snare #7878839
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Who here uses them barrel swivels on snares?
Making up a bunch of snares with #6 barrel swivel.
I have tried them the last couple seasons and really like them.

Haven't lost anything with them.

Some get pretty Bent up with big coyotes.

Has everyone lost anything with breakage?


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Re: Barrel swivel on snare [Re: beartooth trapr] #7878845
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I make them with barrel swivels on my beaver snares

Re: Barrel swivel on snare [Re: PSPH17] #7878857
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Originally Posted by PSPH17
I make them with barrel swivels on my beaver snares


Same

Shame we can't try them out on canines though.


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Re: Barrel swivel on snare [Re: beartooth trapr] #7878866
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Ill never go back to not having them

Re: Barrel swivel on snare [Re: beartooth trapr] #7878879
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Yes I use them on All of my coyote/bobcat snares! Hundred's of them!
I have not had one fail yet. On hundreds of catches.
The #8 is the one I use 900 pound rating!
The #6 is too Small for Coyotes in my opinion.
With the # 8 swivels, I have caught a few deer and the swivel's held up fine until the Break Away S Hook Released the cable!!!
Yep I like them.

Re: Barrel swivel on snare [Re: beartooth trapr] #7878913
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Beaver snares.


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Re: Barrel swivel on snare [Re: beartooth trapr] #7878974
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Here in Pennsylvania, we only may use Cable Restraints on land. beartooth trapr, I use an inline barrel swivel and never had one break.
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Re: Barrel swivel on snare [Re: beartooth trapr] #7879000
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All I use now. I use the #8 swivels. It’s not a huge sampling but I maybe have 75 coyote catches on them in the last 4 years. I mainly stick with steel but some places here I can’t keep traps working in winter.


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Re: Barrel swivel on snare [Re: beartooth trapr] #7879009
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Best features about em are smaller size (harder to see/easier to hide) and less weight (dont make the cable sag)

I build them onto the beaver snares (when snare is set they are up next to the 10" loop. Snares are short as I can make them and still have a 10" loop.)

I put on an 1/8" quick link and then a 4' to 6' extension cable.

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Re: Barrel swivel on snare [Re: beartooth trapr] #7879190
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Excellent thanks everyone, I really like them because they are small.
Easy to conceal.


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Re: Barrel swivel on snare [Re: Swamp Wolf] #7879212
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Swamp wolf I do the same

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Re: Barrel swivel on snare [Re: Swamp Wolf] #7879305
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X2 on the #8 barrel swivels. Will post up what we use on fence snares later. When I get in

Re: Barrel swivel on snare [Re: beartooth trapr] #7879324
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I've never gave any attention to the barrel swivels, but this thread has me thinking about them. Never have seen them up close, so one question. Can the swivels open up to enclose around the loop or do they have to be built into the snare when being made?

Re: Barrel swivel on snare [Re: silkyplainscoyot] #7879331
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Originally Posted by silkyplainscoyot
I've never gave any attention to the barrel swivels, but this thread has me thinking about them. Never have seen them up close, so one question. Can the swivels open up to enclose around the loop or do they have to be built into the snare when being made?


Built into by looping and crimping the cable.

Where others use a quick link to swap out the loop to the extension I go ahead and make up a bunch of snare ends with the loop already bent and tucked into it's ferrule but not crimped.

In the field I can cut off a used snare after the catch and swap out for a new one and crimp it in the field. I got a 1/16" one cavity swager that works well. It's about the same size as my cutters.


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They are worth every penny and cheap insurance.


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Re: Barrel swivel on snare [Re: silkyplainscoyot] #7879719
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Originally Posted by silkyplainscoyot
I've never gave any attention to the barrel swivels, but this thread has me thinking about them. Never have seen them up close, so one question. Can the swivels open up to enclose around the loop or do they have to be built into the snare when being made?

Gotta bulld them into the snare. Which is the only negative I have with these as you can't just switch the snare portion out on the line after a catch. Have to change out the whole thing. Not really an issue for most situations but the spots where the trail doesn't get ruined it's nice to just change the snare part. Could just run as short extension to a trap swivel or ez hook.

Re: Barrel swivel on snare [Re: beartooth trapr] #7879768
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Dale Billingsley had a very good video on YouTube showing how to build these snares.

Re: Barrel swivel on snare [Re: SNIPERBBB] #7879779
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It dose not take much Time at all to replace a used snare with a new snare and extension cable if this is how your snares are set up?
Have plenty of snares ready to use before season starts!
The used snares are saved and rebuilt if possible? During the summer.
Snares can really get tangled up! Especially the long ones.
My open country coyote snares are pretty long.
So I coil them up individually and bundle in groups of ten. This helps keep them organized.
A well made Snare is a great tool, just be careful where you set them.

Re: Barrel swivel on snare [Re: beartooth trapr] #7879788
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There's some places that are really gnarly and you really don't want to go back into them to replace the whole thing if you can help it.

Re: Barrel swivel on snare [Re: beartooth trapr] #7879795
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#8 they last forever, zero failure. I find old snares on fences from days long ago, that are still in good shape

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Originally Posted by SNIPERBBB
There's some places that are really gnarly and you really don't want to go back into them to replace the whole thing if you can help it.


I hear what you are saying and agree!
On a spot like that, I might use another extension cable or drive in a earth anchor/stake that is easier too access.

Re: Barrel swivel on snare [Re: Yotegiter] #7879827
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Originally Posted by Yotegiter
#8 they last forever, zero failure. I find old snares on fences from days long ago, that are still in good shape

Yep !!! Bout like finding 2 quarters on the ground !! LoL !

Re: Barrel swivel on snare [Re: beartooth trapr] #7879835
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I make all snare sets lethal-So I dont use any swivels on snares.
Swivels are a great asset if you set a snare as a live holding device.

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Re: Barrel swivel on snare [Re: Boco] #7879849
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Here is the snare with # 8 barrel swivels we use in West Texas and on high fences

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Re: Barrel swivel on snare [Re: steeltraps] #7879851
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Some folks like to tigh of snare with wire. We prefer to loop back threw on fence then wire

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Re: Barrel swivel on snare [Re: steeltraps] #7879852
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After coyotes are caught. Cut pig tail off at barrell swivel and reuse

Re: Barrel swivel on snare [Re: beartooth trapr] #7879864
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My extensions are cut same length as my snare loop, 36". Finished with a #9 swivel. I make other same length extensions with just a loop where the #8 swivel would be. These get looped around a tree or anchor then daisy chained to the snare #9. I can daisy chain as many as needed to reach from set to anchor. I'm kind of a nut for lots of swiveling.


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Thanks for sharing all


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Re: Barrel swivel on snare [Re: steeltraps] #7880530
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Steeltraps, Those are some well designed fence snares! Fast to set. I bet they work well for the service you provide! Thanks for the pictures.

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We have about 400 of them out on around 107000 acres of sheep pastures so speed is important. Looping. In stead of wiring too fence saves time

Re: Barrel swivel on snare [Re: beartooth trapr] #7880597
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Chris, I don't see a collar on your snare...how do you stabilize it? A pic would be great.

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I've basically eliminated all swivels from my snares. I just don't see a need for them with my style of snaring. I want everything wrapped up tight.

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Originally Posted by MChewk
Chris, I don't see a collar on your snare...how do you stabilize it? A pic would be great.

No collar. Just hang snare on fence. All we do is fence snare. Sorry dont have any pics. Will be back in West Texas by Monday

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Via some light gauge wire?

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Originally Posted by MChewk
Via some light gauge wire?

Yes. It will hand like = tear drop

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I have used barrel swivels for over 30 years.
One of the first to PUBLICALLY denounce wire swivels
A wire swivel has no place on a snare, IMO.
It's junk and serves no purpose and the only person that will dispute that is a guy who trying to sell it to you.
I ditched the #6 and went straight to the #8, which has a 900 lb breaking strength.
BIG coyotes can damage a #6 and stretch them out
Don't think for one second they can't. Reuse a damaged swivel and you'll get an education
Or . . .take it from me #8 / 900 lb.
Do it !!!

* The closer the swivel is the the animal, the better it will perform. Too far away, it's useless

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While I feel there is no need to have a swivel on a coyote dispatch snare (other than legal requirements if applicable), if you do NEED swiveling, the barrel swivels are the way to go.

The wire swivels are only good for satisfying legal requirements.

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Everything from mink to coyote gets a barrel swivel as close to snare support as possible, within reason. I then step up my extension cable from there 1 size and always 7x7

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I use a #8 barrel swivel on my snares.

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I use the big ones on my beaver body traps. Use the smaller ones on 220 and 110 sized traps. I got a coyote by the front leg in a Belilse 220 a couple years ago on 10' of 1/8'' cable. he was there when I checked traps the next morning.


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